An Open Letter to YarisBueller and VitzBoy - Toyota Yaris Forums

eTiMaGo · 08-19-2009, 03:02 AM

Thanks for putting this up, TK, I think it addresses a lot of unsaid things.

It is no secret that YW's not the place it used to be 3,2 or even 1 year ago. One could say that everything that could be talked about the car has already been said, but that's not quite true, there's always some new aspect to be discovered.

So yes, I agree that something needs to be done. Yes, we already have a handful of moderators who are doing what they can to keep this place under control. But, we have no real leadership, nobody to really look up to, to make hard decisions and make real changes.

1) More moderators, sure, spam is annoying but not quite life-or-death-omfg-delete-it-now-or-we-all-die important. The problem is we don't have any kind of agreed-upon rules laying down what is acceptable behavior and what is not. No amount of new mods is gonna change that. There again, we need leadership, it's not like we own the place.

2) Rep level, I dunno, can be abused to easily... Though I have seen on some other forums a "thanks" button, so if someone posts something informative, it will add to their "thanks" tally, far more informative than post counts and can't be abused like with a rep system

3) Agreed, a central knowledgebase with all DIYs, technical info, minimal comments, and so on, would be real useful

But, none of this can happen without the involvement of our founders, they hold the keys, literally. And no amount of pleading or reasoning seems to have an effect, so we're stuck.

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I wholeheartedly agree; something needs to be done ASAP	16	66.67%
I somewhat agree, but this "open letter" could be improved upon (please specify how/why below)	5	20.83%
I don't agree at all / I don't care (please specify how/why if possible)	3	12.50%
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08-19-2009, 03:02 AM	#5
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	Thanks for putting this up, TK, I think it addresses a lot of unsaid things. It is no secret that YW's not the place it used to be 3,2 or even 1 year ago. One could say that everything that could be talked about the car has already been said, but that's not quite true, there's always some new aspect to be discovered. So yes, I agree that something needs to be done. Yes, we already have a handful of moderators who are doing what they can to keep this place under control. But, we have no real leadership, nobody to really look up to, to make hard decisions and make real changes. 1) More moderators, sure, spam is annoying but not quite life-or-death-omfg-delete-it-now-or-we-all-die important. The problem is we don't have any kind of agreed-upon rules laying down what is acceptable behavior and what is not. No amount of new mods is gonna change that. There again, we need leadership, it's not like we own the place. 2) Rep level, I dunno, can be abused to easily... Though I have seen on some other forums a "thanks" button, so if someone posts something informative, it will add to their "thanks" tally, far more informative than post counts and can't be abused like with a rep system 3) Agreed, a central knowledgebase with all DIYs, technical info, minimal comments, and so on, would be real useful But, none of this can happen without the involvement of our founders, they hold the keys, literally. And no amount of pleading or reasoning seems to have an effect, so we're stuck. __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...