New Toyota Yaris 2011 Spy Photos !!!

[schleppy]

I'm sure they'll just make it heavier and loaded with more useless features. The age of being able to buy a basic car seems to be disappearing. Sadly.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by schleppy

I'm sure they'll just make it heavier and loaded with more useless features. The age of being able to buy a basic car seems to be disappearing. Sadly.

You're right. Each generation adds more and more. A Yaris is more advanced than a mid-level car from 15 years ago. But now, it's considered a plain econo-box.

I think it's partly the fault of auto journalists who put simple cars like the Yaris down while lifting up the more feature filled cars such as the Fit (that of course cost more).

But today's consumers generally demand more and more while expecting prices to stay low and for fuel efficiency to go up even with a heavier car. They've gotten spoiled.

So it's pretty certain that Toyota will be forced to compete with more expensively engineered cars because of the negatives that the auto media has labeled the Yaris with (especially when compared to Fit). They'll have to make a more upscale interior, engineer better handling, ect.

It is too bad.

[jimek]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

You're right. Each generation adds more and more. A Yaris is more advanced than a mid-level car from 15 years ago. But now, it's considered a plain econo-box.

not disagreeing exactly but how do you figure?
my 84 oldsmobile delta was pretty basic for 84 and it had nicer seats and dash and other things then my yaris

i like the yaris but its a very basic car as far as im concerned

i can understand an upgraded yaris being as nice as a mid level car from 15 years ago but i have manual windows manual locks 5 speed and i feel like its as bare as a car could come

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by jimek

not disagreeing exactly but how do you figure?
my 84 oldsmobile delta was pretty basic for 84 and it had nicer seats and dash and other things then my yaris

i like the yaris but its a very basic car as far as im concerned

i can understand an upgraded yaris being as nice as a mid level car from 15 years ago but i have manual windows manual locks 5 speed and i feel like its as bare as a car could come

But that Old's was no doubt built kind of poorly in comparison to the Yaris's bullet proof engineering. And the fit and finish on cars from the '80's was horrendous.

Basically, I was saying how the Yaris as a whole (not based just on feature content) is more advanced (build quality, engine, suspension, steering, modern electronics and ECU, ect.). Sure, the interior is all plastic but it's still constructed better and looks better. Also, in all fairness, I was comparing the power package equipped Yaris which then has basically all the features and more of the cars of the '80's and even '90's.

[Yaris Hilton]

My Mom for some reason bought a Cadillac Cimarron (well above the midlevel) in 1984. Its interior stuff looked good at first, but fell apart in a few years. POS.

[jimek]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

But that Old's was no doubt built kind of poorly in comparison to the Yaris's bullet proof engineering. And the fit and finish on cars from the '80's was horrendous.

Basically, I was saying how the Yaris as a whole (not based just on feature content) is more advanced (build quality, engine, suspension, steering, modern electronics and ECU, ect.). Sure, the interior is all plastic but it's still constructed better and looks better. Also, in all fairness, I was comparing the power package equipped Yaris which then has basically all the features and more of the cars of the '80's and even '90's.

i see i totally agree with that and thats why i bought a yaris..for reliability over anything else

[specialeducator]

Originally Posted by jimek

not disagreeing exactly but how do you figure?
my 84 oldsmobile delta was pretty basic for 84 and it had nicer seats and dash and other things then my yaris

i like the yaris but its a very basic car as far as im concerned

i can understand an upgraded yaris being as nice as a mid level car from 15 years ago but i have manual windows manual locks 5 speed and i feel like its as bare as a car could come

I love my manual windows and locks