Manual Transmission...Safety Issue!!!

[YaRS]

The Yaris MT took me about a week to get used to before I could drive the car without any concerns. I remember the first time I drove it I thought, "Holy crap this thing is touchy!" However, the touchy clutch was no problem after I got used to it.

Also, I have noticed that idle rpm's drop to the point of noticeable engine vibration at times. However, I have never stalled the car when this has happened.

I also drive the car up hills with inconveniently placed stop signs all the time without any problems. I might suggest your problems are due to driver experience, but who knows... maybe some Yarii really do come from the factory messed up.

Mine came full of awesomeness.

[YaRS]

Originally Posted by PK198105

you guys realize the OP is long gone most likely , the thread dates back from 2006

Meh, once a dead thread is resurrected I consider it open season for posting. lol That and other people might stumble on this and mistakenly think the Yaris has some sort of terrible flaw...

[scape]

Mine came full of awesomeness.

:D

i agree, once resurrected, people will look at it, so it's good to throw in some positive

[yaris2010RS]

okay....i'm sorry, i know i'm new but still, i have no idea what u guys are describing... as far as i can tell, the ones who are complaining cand adjust? it doesn't sound liek the car at all. dont get my wrong, out off 10000 cars, one will be actually bad, and 6 other people will think theirs is bad. the 2010 yaris atleast i find will take off from dead stop without any gas, jsut at idle, dont get me wrong it doesn't like it and it wound go up hill like that but it goes.....

and personally anyone who says they liked their honda or jeep better, then y dont u have it now? really...u complain but for what? i personally test drive an assortment of cars from versa's and cubes, to civics and kia souls. even the mazda 3 and 6. did a few jeeps and dodges. even a crystler.... did 3 different benz's(after 3 the sales rep said no more till i show some money....or class, lol) out of all of them, price ranges from $20,000 to 80,000 CD. the top 2 cars, the Yaris and the soul. (got the yaris cuz it s a toyota and my neighbour jsut got the soul, lol. glad i didn't get the soul when it first came out, they have the soul s now) the new civic, anyone who likes the standard tranny on that needs a shake if they are going to complain about the yaris. that car has all the problems you are describing. dont get me wrong, the jeep in first could climb a mountain without u even in the car but still. if you want to climb a mountain ure not going to do it in a 1.5l yaris.... you can, dont get me wrong. i've done things where jeeps kinda look at me saying wtf but thats not what the car is ment for. everyone who has posted here has put in their 2 cents. including me. and really this is all personal opinion. but if your gonna complain about the car u got, sell it, call your mom. dont tell yaris lovers its stupid or needs to be fixed. if by chance you do actually have a problem, think about what ure gonna say reasonably and consider the option is it me?

All cars grab at different points and not gonna lie, the electronic throtle was a bit different to begine with but i'm sorry, its a new car for a reason, if u wanted it to drive like your 81 jetta (the car i learned to drive stick on) then u should have kept that car.

yes i found the car very quiet but this is good. and the low idle i LOVE! my mom drives a camry V6 and i have been trying its entire life to bring the idle down below 750rpm.

if u think the idle is too low, before u take off, hold down the gas and call it ure new idle :)

i'm not gonna lie i am kinda flustered seeing as i clicked this post after seeing safety in title and reading all posts and realizing this is bs. but really, the car is great. loads of fun to drive and i liek to wave as i pass gas stations. 50mpg is the greatest thing to happen to a student!! (i have never gotten 50mpg in my life! but its kool to try. highest was 43.8...almost there)

[#87]

A clutch is like a ladies tender spot, each one is different requiring delicate handling and a little dexterity to find that sweet spot.

If you would tell your new lady friend to get lost because you can't find her magic button then you are a man with more options than I.

But I digress. My salient point being sell your Yaris or get used to it.

[bronsin]

The bottom line is: Toyota is making a making a defective product. People who say "get used to it" are enabling Toyota to get away with it. If we all said "Fix your little problem or we arent buying a Toyota anymore" then they would have to do something about it. All you have to do is look at BMW motorcycles. They are becoming as trouble prone as Harleys because so many people tolerate their (increasing) QC problems.

[derickveliz2]

I love the way my Yaris drives. At 18K miles it just gets better and better.

[gamot_vendor]

Just got a new Vios (Yaris Sedan) 1.3 liter, I have no problems with the clutch and find the gearbox a pleasure to use.

[127.0.0.1]

Originally Posted by bronsin

The bottom line is: Toyota is making a making a defective product. People who say "get used to it" are enabling Toyota to get away with it. If we all said "Fix your little problem or we arent buying a Toyota anymore" then they would have to do something about it. All you have to do is look at BMW motorcycles. They are becoming as trouble prone as Harleys because so many people tolerate their (increasing) QC problems.

incorrect

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

i have have a pneumatic shifter.

[yaris2010RS]

am i the only one not seeing this problem? you are describing it as dangerous as a wheel randomly falling off while doing 55..... if i understand correctly it is simply you cannot take off from stop because u dont know how to drive standard properly.....

[tomato]

Originally Posted by bronsin

The bottom line is: Toyota is making a making a defective product. People who say "get used to it" are enabling Toyota to get away with it. If we all said "Fix your little problem or we arent buying a Toyota anymore" then they would have to do something about it. All you have to do is look at BMW motorcycles. They are becoming as trouble prone as Harleys because so many people tolerate their (increasing) QC problems.

It's not defective, it's just not as smooth as others. Big difference.

Defective implies that it doesn't work. It works just fine, just takes a little getting used to.

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

am i the only one not seeing this problem? you are describing it as dangerous as a wheel randomly falling off while doing 55..... if i understand correctly it is simply you cannot take off from stop because u dont know how to drive standard properly.....

That's not it either. Again, Yaris MT does take a little getting used to it.

We're saying that in good faith. We're not dissing the car, we're just saying that it could use a little improvement, that's all

(I've driven MT's all my life, so although I'm not an expert driver, I'm no novice either, had many cars w/ manual trannies in my hands )

Don't forget, we are a consumer board as well. Our feedback is invaluable. We should most definitely voice our opinion about our car. Yes, we love the car, we bought it, but there is room for improvement in this model. I think that's all we're saying. Plus we're telling others what to expect if they get a 2007-2009 MT Yaris.

[ozmdd]

There is no problem with the Yaris M/T. It appears that quite a few Yaris owners simply need to become more skilled at driving a manual transmission. Lots of people getting too soft in this technology-driven world.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by tomato

It's not defective, it's just not as smooth as others. Big difference.

Classic enabler!

[Betrivent]

After reading this, it makes me feel better after I learned how to drive standard on my yaris. I thought I was doing it wrong, guess it's because it's harder to learn on this car :)

[tomato]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Classic enabler!

err.. sorry?

[YaRS]

I think the simple solution is for all potential buyers to go out and test drive the car they want. I'm sure that there is at least one dealership nearby with a MT Yaris (although, they are on the rarer side where I'm from).

I figure that if you have driven MT cars before, then you should be able to at least go from a stop without stalling by the end of the test drive. If not, perhaps another car is the answer.

That said, I sat in an Aveo before and was startled to find that there was the same amount of play in the shifter regardless of whether you were in neutral or in first... so we can't have it that bad.

Also, it is possible to drive the Yaris without using the clutch (other than to launch from a stop). So all the uber haters need to take a breath and maybe some driving classes.

[woof]

My problematic Yaris is my third Toyota. I never had a problem with the first two. I traded a five-speed '05 xB1 with 50K miles for my Yaris 5-speed. The Yaris was a nightmare to drive the first year.

I noted this with the dealer three times over 2.5 years. When I went back in for some serious attention (55K miles) the service manager lied to me. The whole service department had been lying to me for 2.5 years. The state Toyota rep had me take it to another dealer and they lied saying the metal on metal clunking was "allowable". So, the Gulf States rep is a liar.

TOYOTA DOES NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS OR WARRANTIES!

I am now going to have to go to the state AG office and every other place in creation to get some attention on this defective design and the subsequent damage.

Note: The Big Foot Mod didn't come out of no where, it was a necessary fix to a problem that many people experienced. My original service manager admitted, by accident, he was aware of the dead pedal height difference in our near screaming match.

I have driven clutch only cars for 40 years. This is not something I have a problem with and my Scion (same drivetrain) was flawless. The Scion xB1 doesn't have a "dead pedal" extending to the clutch.

I had an independent mechanic diagnose my problem before I wrote my dealer's owner and I have slack in the inside CV joints and possible slack inside the transmo (splines).

I traded my xB1 at 50K miles because of its high mileage in just two years. I should have kept it.

Lesson: Honda, Toyota, Nissan, anybody, will be happy to take your maintenance money with a smile. Take them an expensive warranty repair and expect to be beaten like a redheaded step child. Toyota's don't normally have problems before 60K miles but if they do....see CAPS above.