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Old 12-28-2009, 12:59 AM   #1
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IMO, electric cars are definately a major part of the future.

However, they need further developement to to became mainstream and not be just a esoteric form of transportation

1) The price needs to come down to the level of comparative gas cars.
2) The range needs to be increase a bit,
3) The avalibility of charging staions/outlets outside the home are needed.

IMO, the needs of an electric car to become mainsteam are akin to those that gas powered cars faced in displacing the hores and buggy, namely cost, support and pacticality.
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:09 PM   #2
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IMO, electric cars are definately a major part of the future.

However, they need further developement to to became mainstream and not be just a esoteric form of transportation

1) The price needs to come down to the level of comparative gas cars.
2) The range needs to be increase a bit,
3) The avalibility of charging staions/outlets outside the home are needed.

IMO, the needs of an electric car to become mainsteam are akin to those that gas powered cars faced in displacing the hores and buggy, namely cost, support and pacticality.
100 years ago, your great ancestors posted..

IMO, gas cars are definitely a major part of the future.

However, they need further development to to became mainstream and not be just a esoteric form of transportation

1) The price needs to come down to the level of steam engines.
2) The range needs to be increase a bit,
3) The availability of gasoline stations/outlets outside the home are needed. You can always use Coal, wood or anything that burns to power a steam engine, but we need places to be able to get gasoline.

IMO, the needs of a gas car to become mainstream are akin to those that steam powered engines faced in displacing the horse and buggy, namely cost, support and practicality.


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Yes, it will, because the Volt is a hybrid - not an EV. The poster that I quoted gave me the impression that he was speaking about EVs in general rather than just the Volt, and that's what I was speaking to.
I wouldn't call the Volt a hybrid.. Hybrid cars have both gas and electric engines to power the car.. The volt is 100% electric with a gasoline charger / range extender.. Technically not a hybrid engine design since only one engine turns the wheels.. You could always yank the gas engine out of a Chevy Volt and the car will work 100% until it runs out of energy..
You can't yank the gasoline engine out of a prius and have it still be a usable car, it wouldn't get above 45MPH..

The MAJOR show-stopper that I see with the Chevy Volt, especially up here in NY and colder climates is that the electric motors are so energy efficient that they don't generate any heat.. Yup, 30 below and no heat! Of course, I'd imagine that the car's heating comes from the range extender gas engine but having to run that 24/7 kinda defeats the point of putting down 30 grand for an electric car like the Volt.

If I lived down south, then I would definitely get the volt as my next car.

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Old 01-05-2010, 02:11 PM   #3
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I wouldn't call the Volt a hybrid.. Hybrid cars have both gas and electric engines to power the car.. The volt is 100% electric with a gasoline charger / range extender.. Technically not a hybrid engine design since only one engine turns the wheels.. You could always yank the gas engine out of a Chevy Volt and the car will work 100% until it runs out of energy..
You can't yank the gasoline engine out of a prius and have it still be a usable car, it wouldn't get above 45MPH..

The MAJOR show-stopper that I see with the Chevy Volt, especially up here in NY and colder climates is that the electric motors are so energy efficient that they don't generate any heat.. Yup, 30 below and no heat! Of course, I'd imagine that the car's heating comes from the range extender gas engine but having to run that 24/7 kinda defeats the point of putting down 30 grand for an electric car like the Volt.
The Volt does not have a hybrid drive train but it does indeed have a hybrid power system. Also, 1.4L is complete and total overkill just for charging some batteries, and its presence in the car puts it in the same mechanical class as the other hybrids on the road, some of which employ even smaller engines for their drive train (the first generation Honda Insight uses a 1.0L 3 cylinder).

When it comes to heating EVs employ a ceramic-based resistance heater, much like a space heater. This means the heat in the Volt will likely come from the batteries rather than the engine, but it will end up running the engine sooner in order to replenish the batteries.
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