Brake warning lights !+ABS

[supmet]

Originally Posted by devinlamothe

It's a faulty speed sensor/wiring harness. Toyota should REALLY do a recall but they seem to be getting greedy.

Ehh, I'm going to go ahead and say since 99% of complaints are from toronto, ontario, or other places in canada, someone already did the math and found its your crappy sand/salt mixture that is destroying vehicles, and not really a design flaw.

Also, If I drive my yaris into a 20 foot snow bank and dent every panel, should toyota cover it?? I'm trying to figure out where the line between normal driving and abuse is. I don't think a single sensor failing after being abused through multiple winters is that bad. ABS speed sensors fail, on all cars, if you don't like it, move out of the frozen hell you live in, but stop trashing toyota.

To me this whole thread, and the one you linked to are analogous to driving through a river and then saying toyotas are junk because you hydrolocked.

on a side note:

Honda is recalling 182,756 MY 2006-2007 Civic sedan and coupe model vehicles. The wheel speed sensor housing uses an O-ring seal to prevent leakage to or from the wheel bearing. If assembled improperly, the O-ring may not seal properly allowing water to enter the wheel bearing and eventually cause damage to the bearing, especially in areas where use of road salt is prevalent. If the driver continues to drive with this condition, it is possible for the wheel bearing to become loose, which could cause the bearing to fail. This could cause a wheel to fall off of the vehicle, possibly resulting in a crash. Dealers will inspect the rear ABS sensors and wheel bearings for damaged parts and replace them. The recall began on September 25, 2007. 07V399

[devinlamothe]

Originally Posted by supmet

Ehh, I'm going to go ahead and say since 99% of complaints are from toronto, ontario, or other places in canada, someone already did the math and found its your crappy sand/salt mixture that is destroying vehicles, and not really a design flaw.

Also, If I drive my yaris into a 20 foot snow bank and dent every panel, should toyota cover it?? I'm trying to figure out where the line between normal driving and abuse is. I don't think a single sensor failing after being abused through multiple winters is that bad. ABS speed sensors fail, on all cars, if you don't like it, move out of the frozen hell you live in, but stop trashing toyota.

To me this whole thread, and the one you linked to are analogous to driving through a river and then saying toyotas are junk because you hydrolocked.

on a side note:

Honda is recalling 182,756 MY 2006-2007 Civic sedan and coupe model vehicles. The wheel speed sensor housing uses an O-ring seal to prevent leakage to or from the wheel bearing. If assembled improperly, the O-ring may not seal properly allowing water to enter the wheel bearing and eventually cause damage to the bearing, especially in areas where use of road salt is prevalent. If the driver continues to drive with this condition, it is possible for the wheel bearing to become loose, which could cause the bearing to fail. This could cause a wheel to fall off of the vehicle, possibly resulting in a crash. Dealers will inspect the rear ABS sensors and wheel bearings for damaged parts and replace them. The recall began on September 25, 2007. 07V399

We are not purposely driving cars into sand/snow to break the car. These sensors need to be better sealed for driving in weather conditions that we get up here.

Yes, speed sensors DO fail, but they SHOULD NOT fail prematurely like they are. Fact, I had my rear left sensor replaced last winter. Guess what? The SAME ONE is busted again this winter.

This should NOT be happening and yes, it is Toyota's fault for not designing a better part.

And no, moving is not an option, I happen to like the cold & snow.