Most worthwhile mod for Yaris?

[DandiDani]

lol. where are you driving that there is that much debris in the road anyways? im glad im not living there.

[silver_vios]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

Don't be silly. I said that being able to straddle road debris, and having a little extra ground clearance, outweighs any imagined advantages of being able to swerve a little harder. Even slightly taller than average parking curbs are a hazard to the bottom of the air dam as it is. It's foolish to lower the car any further.

Back in the 60s people argued that tail fins improved vehicle stability when the fact of the matter was that they were merely fashion statements. I'm seing the same kind of logic here.

If you care about avoiding road debris... don't sit your car on the ground. Maintain some ground clearance.

My car looks better and handles better than any stock scion. And it was cheaper too. And even before I lowered it, it's not like you could "straddle road debris" except for a plastic bag.

Oh, and if you don't understand how upgraded springs/shocks/struts and adding a sway bar improve handling, I don't care how old you anyone is, this conversation isn't going anywhere.... Its not just road debris, its the truck that pulls out in front of you with 20 feet to spare. Its the drunk that swerves across the median right into you. My suspension will stick, yours will rock like a tuna boat. God forbid there's more than a slight crosswind for any of this.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by YAR1S

I dont see how suspension mods can look tacky unless you mean heavily dropped and scraping?

How much can you drop the Yaris from stock without moving into that territory?

I've no particular attachment to the hub caps. I wouldn't be averse to fancier wheels as long as rotating mass and aerodynamics were not adversely affected. The Yaris' real world fuel economy is one of its outstanding features. And one which I care about a great deal. The world needs more cars like the Yaris.

Engine modifications are tacky????

Exhaust mods are usually tacky. The poll choices tend to combine more than one thing into one response.

I already know you will flame on me for this, I am looking forward to your response.

No. Flames on Internet forums are a complete waste of time. Discussion either works or it does not. Things are not looking particularly hopeful for this discussion. But hey, the night is young.

-Steve

[YAR1S]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

How much can you drop the Yaris from stock without moving into that territory?

I've no particular attachment to the hub caps. I wouldn't be averse to fancier wheels as long as rotating mass and aerodynamics were not adversely affected. The Yaris' real world fuel economy is one of its outstanding features. And one which I care about a great deal. The world needs more cars like the Yaris.



Exhaust mods are usually tacky. The poll choices tend to combine more than one thing into one response.

No. Flames on Internet forums are a complete waste of time. Discussion either works or it does not. Things are not looking particularly hopeful for this discussion. But hey, the night is young.

-Steve

Well I respect you for not flaming.

Discussions can go south on this forum real quick.

The yaris is by far one of the best cars for the money you save.
*I think* You can drop the yaris at least 2 inches before you start to have problems and issues with rubbing, depending on what wheel setup you have, this is where suspension comes in, stiffening the ride.
In the end, it depends on why you bought your yaris..... for it's amazing MPG's, just a DD, sporty car, or a mixture of the previous. I know people on here who will give anything to strip out all the unnecessary parts to get that lightweight gas sipping machine they've always dreamed of.... and then I know some on here who modify the heck out of their yaris to make it a fun and limber AutoX car.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by silver_vios

Its not just road debris, its the truck that pulls out in front of you with 20 feet to spare. Its the drunk that swerves across the median right into you. My suspension will stick, yours will rock like a tuna boat. God forbid there's more than a slight crosswind for any of this.

I drive 40k miles per year and haven't had this happen. No accidents in 30 years. While road debris is an almost daily hazard.

And are you sure you are not rather drastically over-stating any difference that your mods might have made? I suspect you are.

Look, if you want to make a fashion statement, that's fine. Even if I might have aesthetic qualms with the defacements you choose to inflict upon your car. But It's pretty silly to try to make the "life or death" safety argument you seem to want to make.

-Steve

[silver_vios]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

I drive 40k miles per year and haven't had this happen. No accidents in 30 years. While road debris is an almost daily hazard.

And are you sure you are not rather drastically over-stating any difference that your mods might have made? I suspect you are.

Look, if you want to make a fashion statement, that's fine. Even if I might have aesthetic qualms with the defacements you choose to inflict upon your car. But It's pretty silly to try to make the "life or death" safety argument you seem to want to make.

-Steve

40k miles a year in BFE, OK < 1 day in LA

and no, you are understating something that you have absolutely no clue about. Go wiki some big words to dazzle everyone with. My car is safer than yours, get over it.

/out, don't feed the troll

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by DandiDani

lol. where are you driving that there is that much debris in the road anyways? im glad im not living there.

Interstates between Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado, and Kansas. I40, I25, I70, I35.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by silver_vios

...

/out, don't feed the troll

He's got over 130 posts and is defending the Yaris in base form.

Hardly a troll.

And coming from someone with 3 posts?

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by silver_vios

Go wiki some big words to dazzle everyone with. My car is safer than yours, get over it.

Whatever you say.

[sbergman27]

Wow. I had not noticed that Silver Vios is even newer here than I am. So I'll take a time out from our snit to welcome Silver Vios to the forum and note that my level of diplomacy has a certain variability to it depending upon mood and circumstance.

-Steve

[silver_vios]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

He's got over 130 posts and is defending the Yaris in base form.

Hardly a troll.

And coming from someone with 3 posts?

Originally Posted by sbergman27

but why would anyone want to rice up a Yaris in this way?
You bought a skull gear shift knob but are worried about visible wires looking lame?

+ this thread... Coming on to a modding forum and insulting everyone that mods = troll. Pretty much by definition. But me having 3 posts negates all that I suppose.

[Kal-El]

sbergman27,

I totally get what you are saying in support of a stock Yaris. There are reasons Toyota makes it the way it is. It is the most practical, the most efficient, and the most economical.

That said, putting down mods as being tacky or something only teenagers are interested in is way off. Check out the picture threads of cars with 1.5-2" drops with 16-17" wheels. Many are very cleanly done. The drop isn't slammed, it basically brings the fender gap where it should be (the way expensive cars come stock - hardly tacky or immature).

I basically defend both decisions. For me, I have 16" alloys on stock suspension. I'd like the better look of a drop, but I think I prefer the comfortable ride and practicality in snow (and the financial factor of not spending the money I don't really have for a drop).

It's totally fine if you completely disagree with mods. But when they're done right, they aren't tacky. People are pretty much just trying to get a more premium look that performs better with these mods.

Sporty luxury cars and premium sports cars come with drops, big wheels, fancy exhausts, beefy engines, and often have body kits or low ground affects. They are anything but tacky.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by silver_vios

+ this thread... Coming on to a modding forum and insulting everyone that mods = troll. Pretty much by definition. But me having 3 posts negates all that I suppose.

Thing is though, is that this isn't a modding forum. YarisWorld is a Yaris forum that talks about everything Yaris with other off topic discussions as well.

They're are specific sub-forums dedicated to mods, this particular sub-forum is a general Yaris discussion though.

[silver_vios]

cool, you're not a mod, and I know how to use ignore, troll solved, and my ignore list grows by 2

suddenly this thread is much shorter

[eht13]

Wow... I start an innocent poll, log off for a while, and come back to see I started a storm.

There are plenty of good points made here on both sides. I actually intended to add an option that said "No mods", but forgot to just the way I temporarily forgot to add "wheels" as an option. My car is stock, currently anyway, but one or two tastefully done mods are kind of in the back of my mind. However, my car came with all the options, including the OEM 15" alloys. If it hadn't, I'm pretty sure I would have already done a mod or two. I personally can't stand the steelies with plastic wheel covers.

Thanks for the input so far. Just a note... this poll wasn't just created for my own research purposes, but also thinking it could be useful for others too. Also, to TK-421 (love that name)... I saw that thread that is linked in your sig... actually read through it again earlier today. Thanks.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by eht13

Wow... I start an innocent poll, log off for a while, and come back to see I started a storm.

I hope that my off-tone contribution was of some value.

[JumpmanYaris]

Originally Posted by YAR1S

WOW, negative much??? seriously??
I dont see how suspension mods can look tacky unless you mean heavily dropped and scraping? Besides who wouldnt agree that the yaris looks like a mini suv on steroids.... and those hubcaps? Seriously? Those hubcaps cheapen the car. Engine modifications are tacky???? most of them you cant even see..... This forum is big on modifications and such so maybe if you dont like that maybe you should just go to a regular generic toyota forum.

and yes, I am young, and yes you are old(assuming from the mature response LOL), people are differnt, some people take pride in their car hobbies, some couldnt give a toss.

no negativity is needed in this forum and it always breeds flaming, which is what I am doing.... but hey whats a forum without a few lemons.


I already know you will flame on me for this, I am looking forward to your response.

Ladies and gents this young girl (lol) has been in YW for some time and i must say I have never seen her go OFF on anyone in YW, Steve, sir you really pissed her off. The quite ones are bad when they explode lol.

Its Ok if you dont like mods on the yaris, but i wouldnt had said all that in ur very first post when maybe more then half of YW members have mods specialy suspensions, some times is good to just keeps somethings to ur self and not to piss ppl off.
Modding isnt for everyone i guess enjoy ur stay at YW good luck trying to get back in good with all .

[JumpmanYaris]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

My vote was for "Other": None of the above. Yaris is pretty good just the way it is.

Rear sway bar: Unnecessary. Silly.

Lowering springs / other suspension: Probably tacky.

Engine / exhaust: Likely tacky. Very possibly rude to other drivers and to people whose houses you pass on the road. We give you the finger as you go buy, even if you don't see us doing it.

Bodykit / spoiler: Likely tacky.

I knew things was going to go down south because of this post