W.O.T in neutral

[IllusionX]

oh man... think about those rotaries that drive over 10k rpm :)

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by IllusionX

oh man... think about those rotaries that drive over 10k rpm :)

It all kind of depends upon how far down the road you look. If you trade cars every 4 years, it's probably no big deal. But when your other cars are all 22 and 42 years old, with 250k+ and 350k+ miles on them, you tend to think a little further down the road. My Sprint had 77,432 miles on it when I bought it in 1992... and that seems like only yesterday. 350k today.

-Steve

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

It all kind of depends upon how far down the road you look. If you trade cars every 4 years, it's probably no big deal. But when your other cars are all 22 and 42 years old, with 250k+ and 350k+ miles on them, you tend to think a little further down the road. My Sprint had 77,432 miles on it when I bought it in 1992... and that seems like only yesterday. 350k today.

-Steve

Reliable cars stay reliable for a long time. Though, winters in Canada don't help keeping those car in shape for that long unless they are stored for winter. In such case, these cars don't get alot of mileage.

Anyways... it always depends on the car. A Smart CDI, you'd keep it between 2000-2500rpm with a redline at 3200rpm!
A rotary engine is to be kept above 6000rpm...
A honda should be kept above 3000rpm...

American muscle don't rev very high, so you don't drive it the way you drive a japanese car. When was the last time you saw a japanese car that stay at 1500rpm @60mph ?

As you are talking about your chevy sprint... I had the original suzuki swift. That thing ran at 3500rpm @60mph!!!

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by IllusionX

As you are talking about your chevy sprint... I had the original suzuki swift. That thing ran at 3500rpm @60mph!!!

I have a Geo Metro automatic (really my brother's) which turns 4000rpm at 60mph. 5000rpm at 75 mph. They had a 4.1:1 FD with no overdrive. Not even a locking torque converter in those. The automatics were very primitive. Like something out of the 70s.

The 5 speed manual Sprints had a 0.76:1 overdrive. And the Sprint Metro had a special 3.79:1 final drive, in addition to a low lift, short duration economy cam, different ECU, and special low friction piston ring configuration.

With P15580R12 tires (3% larger diameter than the original, and impossible to find, P14580R12 tires) my Sprint Metro turns 2660 rpm at 60 mph. On teamswift, those who have changed their ring and pinions out for the 3.62:1 variety available on certain 1.3 liter 4 cylinder Swifts tend to chide the rest of us with their 2550rpm@60mph readings. (Some members even lie about their FD.)

The Yaris, in 4th gear, turns about the same speed, about 2550 rpm, at 60 mph. Its comparatively huge, monster inline 4 1.5L engine allows for that. ;-)

-Steve

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

I have a Geo Metro automatic (really my brother's) which turns 4000rpm at 60mph. 5000rpm at 75 mph. They had a 4.1:1 FD with no overdrive. Not even a locking torque converter in those. The automatics were very primitive. Like something out of the 70s.

The 5 speed manual Sprints had a 0.76:1 overdrive. And the Sprint Metro had a special 3.79:1 final drive, in addition to a low lift, short duration economy cam, different ECU, and special low friction piston ring configuration.

With P15580R12 tires (3% larger diameter than the original, and impossible to find, P14580R12 tires) my Sprint Metro turns 2660 rpm at 60 mph. On teamswift, those who have changed their ring and pinions out for the 3.62:1 variety available on certain 1.3 liter 4 cylinder Swifts tend to chide the rest of us with their 2550rpm@60mph readings. (Some members even lie about their FD.)

The Yaris, in 4th gear, turns about the same speed, about 2550 rpm, at 60 mph. Its comparatively huge, monster inline 4 1.5L engine allows for that. ;-)

-Steve

it's crazy how those little engines ran high RPM's... the Geo only had a 1.3L

my swift had a 1.6L with 3 spd automatic...

well... RPM always stayed high. :) but god, it had alot of power for the little car.. hehe