Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Which speakers are you going to get, Herb?

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Which speakers are you going to get, Herb?

Not to take this thread off topic, honestly, I haven't decided yet...still researching. Since I'm keeping the stock head unit, I want to find a good match without doing all the electronic upgrades that Derick has so very nicely diagrammed in earlier posts.

So a question here that I either missed the answer to or haven't seen it - for the stock HU, should I go with speakers that are 2 or 4 ohms? At this time I am not planning on installing any kind of amp. Yes, I know I won't enjoy the full capabilities of new speakers without an amp, but I've got to keep an eye on the $$$'s. Perhaps I can add a small amp later.

Thanks!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

Not to take this thread off topic, honestly, I haven't decided yet...still researching. Since I'm keeping the stock head unit, I want to find a good match without doing all the electronic upgrades that Derick has so very nicely diagrammed in earlier posts.

So a question here that I either missed the answer to or haven't seen it - for the stock HU, should I go with speakers that are 2 or 4 ohms? At this time I am not planning on installing any kind of amp. Yes, I know I won't enjoy the full capabilities of new speakers without an amp, but I've got to keep an eye on the $$$'s. Perhaps I can add a small amp later.

Thanks!

I was in the same position you are before getting into all this, and this is what I was going to do:

Front speakers: Pioneer 6.5 ($40) LINK
Rear speakers: any 6x9 (>$40) LINK

2 cts I hope it helps I really don't know about the 2 or 4 ohms

you could still add an amp or a small amplified sub later, this would be a good improvement.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

Not to take this thread off topic, honestly, I haven't decided yet...still researching. Since I'm keeping the stock head unit, I want to find a good match without doing all the electronic upgrades that Derick has so very nicely diagrammed in earlier posts.

So a question here that I either missed the answer to or haven't seen it - for the stock HU, should I go with speakers that are 2 or 4 ohms? At this time I am not planning on installing any kind of amp. Yes, I know I won't enjoy the full capabilities of new speakers without an amp, but I've got to keep an eye on the $$$'s. Perhaps I can add a small amp later.

Thanks!

the ohm load of the speakers should actually be about the last thing you should be worrying about. A 4ohm speaker is generally more efficient than a 2ohm speaker, so, the additional power that a 2ohm speaker usually doesn't make much of a difference.
I've ran 4ohm & 8ohm speakers before.... you won't here an audible difference between them... its all the other specs that will make an audible difference.

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

the ohm load of the speakers should actually be about the last thing you should be worrying about. A 4ohm speaker is generally more efficient than a 2ohm speaker, so, the additional power that a 2ohm speaker usually doesn't make much of a difference.
I've ran 4ohm & 8ohm speakers before.... you won't here an audible difference between them... its all the other specs that will make an audible difference.

Thanks! I wasn't sure if the 2 vs 4 made a difference as far a power requirements from the HU as I know zip about the stocker in my car.

Lookin' good Derick! You're gonna turn into a walking zombie with all those late nights! I hear you about the family, especially with a youngster demanding your attention. So...when are you to to "mod" the play structure? Stereo? Fridge? Ceiling fan? Lounge?

[derickveliz2]

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I just met my worst night mare!!!........FRONT RIGHT DOOR TRIM PANEL!!!




I can't believe it, it was so hard... I know the extra layers of CCF and MLV was too much and I knew I was going to trim them to make it fit; I put on and off that panel maybe a couple dozen times, maybe more!!!, I spent all my hour of lunch trying and trying... at the end I was successful. Also had to take away the little foam on the upper part, and cut all the way down the big one.

Looks like there are main points in the panel that go agains the inner door and felt like little bumps deflecting the panel making it impossible to put back in place.

I hope this helps me plan the drives side door better.

I'm exhausted

I was so lucky my boss came back from vacations and he brought 2 pizzas for us!

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[derickveliz2]

I forgot to mention, that the THUMP coming from the door when I slam it...

it's so GOOD, it's PRICELESS



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[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

Thanks! I wasn't sure if the 2 vs 4 made a difference as far a power requirements from the HU as I know zip about the stocker in my car.

Lookin' good Derick! You're gonna turn into a walking zombie with all those late nights! I hear you about the family, especially with a youngster demanding your attention. So...when are you to to "mod" the play structure? Stereo? Fridge? Ceiling fan? Lounge?

OHHHHH... crap.... I totally read your entire post... and somehow glazed over when you said STOCK DECK.... if you plan on running the speakers off the deck's internal amplifier, then I would stay away from the 2ohm speakers. I thought you were going to power the speakers off an external amplifier (i'm blond, don't crucify me).

the 2ohm load on a deck will cause it to run very hot, and possibly blow fuses. There are a lot of electronics that give off heat in a deck even before you consider the amplifier. I have a deck that doesn't even have an internal amp, it only has a 2amp fuse, and the front of it gets warm.... now compare that to a deck which will have around a 10amp fuse.

Usually when people talk about running a 2ohm speaker, it's because they want to get every last watt of power out of their external amplifiers.

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

OHHHHH... crap.... I totally read your entire post... and somehow glazed over when you said STOCK DECK.... if you plan on running the speakers off the deck's internal amplifier, then I would stay away from the 2ohm speakers. I thought you were going to power the speakers off an external amplifier (i'm blond, don't crucify me).

the 2ohm load on a deck will cause it to run very hot, and possibly blow fuses. There are a lot of electronics that give off heat in a deck even before you consider the amplifier. I have a deck that doesn't even have an internal amp, it only has a 2amp fuse, and the front of it gets warm.... now compare that to a deck which will have around a 10amp fuse.

Usually when people talk about running a 2ohm speaker, it's because they want to get every last watt of power out of their external amplifiers.

No worries! I know just enough to believe the 2's were not the best choice for my stock HU. I bit the bullet and just ordered these 4ohm units from SonicElectronics:

1. Kicker KS60.2: 1 @ $109.99 (doors)
2. Alpine SPR-69C: 1 @ $99.99 (rear deck)

I've got my car 1/2 torn apart and would like to ONLY get into the doors and rear deck once!

Better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission!