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Old 06-23-2010, 01:03 PM   #19
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btw, thanks to realenth for opening up the discussion. I know you didn't mean for this thread to evolve, but the result is really good information.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:30 PM   #20
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See I told you! I was going to buy one. lol. Oh wells, wasn't meant to be.

Cdydedje: Am I wrong, but I thought you were not running management on your turbo kit right now? Or was it not tuned yet?
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Old 06-23-2010, 04:20 PM   #21
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just wondering though Garm, how far off are you to completing a "kit" at this point.... no rush but im just honestly curious now.
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Old 06-23-2010, 04:41 PM   #22
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just missing a downpipe to test what we have. However, Carlos has been running his on the street for months, which says a lot.

If I choose to put my name behind what he makes, I will support the sale 100% like I do with every other product I sell.
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:27 PM   #23
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Wow. This thread is getting ridiculously awesome.

I completely forgot I was at work for the entire duration of me reading it =)

I'm anxiously awaiting to hear from Cdyj / Carlos? & Garm on if they're going to work together and what the kit will be like etc.

I was looking to do a 2ZZ swap but this turbo kit could be a more reliable, cheaper, more realistic goal. And also a great chance to support Yaris vendors.

Keep us updated!
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:49 PM   #24
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Even I was sent a PM to buy the kit, and you get what you pay for. My only issue is looks. We all know the kit performs well, but it's not pleasing to my eye. Ex Zage vs cdydjded's kit:





this is most ascetically pleasing IMO:
http://www.turbodynamic.net/content/...ail.php?gid=96


We do need a reliable turbo kit in the US. It would be nice to also see a manifold and down-pipe sold together for the yaris. I think if you were going to sell a kit you should be able to opt for what kind of bov, ems, and/ or injectors you want or opt not to have them. I also think if you are going to sell a kit with ems, it would be nice to include some sort of plug in option. Even N/A guys would love to be able to just "plug and play". I'm sure they would sell if available. I know they had them for the xb, just 2 pins were different or something like that. IMO that probably scares off people, but being able to have 100% fit would be nice.

The only thing stopping me from buying a Zage kit now is that I stopped working overtime and lost an extra $500 a month and I've been spending it on going out. I need to start saving again and I'm trying to get more overtime again.

Overall IMO someone needs to buy the zage kit and try it and/or someone needs to make a reliable one and market it. You also need to realize most people don't see a value in paying 4k for a supercharger that has minimal gains so they don't save. If a kit with a reasonable price tag has good gains people will save and spend the money. So it may take some time before people buy them but "if you build it, they will come."
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:21 PM   #25
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IMO someone needs to buy the zage kit and try it and/or someone needs to make a reliable one and market it.
That's the point of this thread.

OPTION 1
Go ahead and buy the Zage, see if everything fits, good luck with customer service if it doesn't, with wiring and with tuning.

OPTION 2
Buy a complete kit, every part included, even a base map, WITH instructions, that has been run on a USDM car for months with no issues, and backed by me, Carlos, or both of us together.

Any questions?
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Yah (if I wasn't S/C'd), where do I sign up!?!?
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:23 PM   #27
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You also need to realize most people don't see a value in paying 4k for a supercharger that has minimal gains
Sorry but this is also incorrect. "Most people" actually have seen a value so far, and are reasonably happy with their superchargers and the performance gains. And it's $3400 shipped (or it was from me, anyway), not $4000; please don't exaggerate to make your point.
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Well lets figure in intake, header, and injectors will bring you to about $40000. You would be replacing all those parts with the turbo kit. Also when all you have is a supercharger, it's all you have. If Greddy had made a turbo kit, it might have been different. Either way I'm sorry if I over exaggerated the number. I still would rather pay $2500 for a turbo kit then $4000 with a supercharger w/ injectors, intake, and header.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:52 PM   #29
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well in all reality MOST people don't see any value in any performance mods for an econobox but somehow companies still make and sell performance parts for the yaris. some people are obviously buying.
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Well lets figure in intake, header, and injectors will bring you to about $40000. You would be replacing all those parts with the turbo kit. Also when all you have is a supercharger, it's all you have.
Dude, we had this discussion in your previous thread. The blitz kit is plug and play and your set. You DON'T NEED a intake/header/injectors. Even if you did, it can still be less than $4,000.
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:50 PM   #31
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Yes, ideally you want piping with the least turbulent bends in it, but you also want to minimize length of piping as well.

I have this one kid i know that has his piping wrapped around everything and in front of his intercooler. Check this out I am sure you'll lawl.

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Old 06-24-2010, 12:11 AM   #32
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oh wow that is extreme, thanks for showing that.
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I agree that cdydjded's kit could be better looking but you can't argue performance. Better piping = spool faster = better overall kit.

I would worry more about the fact that we're crazy enough to boost an econo box before worrying about what cdydjded's kit will look like when the hood is popped =)
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:03 AM   #34
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LOL np, I like the kid, but its like were two different people. There are ricers and then there are wrenchers and he argues that his piping is more efficient and produces more power everytime.

Hahah also theres a kid on my forums, that stresses backpurging of welds when he was making manifolds and downpipes, that it will severely make his kit a better overall kit.

Honestly, as long as it is a nice functional well thought out kit, you can just powdercoat crap yourself later....
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Old 06-24-2010, 01:12 PM   #36
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Wow, this thread expanded quick. I am in need of fixing my front end before i get a kit. I will see how soon i can get this done.
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