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Old 06-22-2010, 12:50 PM   #19
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A mini-minivan is my thought on the subject.

But yeah, Toyota's gotten as big on the "Longer! Lower! Wider!" kick as U.S. carmakers in the late '50s. My Yaris sedan is as big as a Camry used to be.
no kidding. a new corolla is huge compared to what it used to be.
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Old 06-22-2010, 01:55 PM   #20
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Actually they didn't with the hatchback. They kept the ~3,75m length from the old Starlet up to now while other manufactures made their small cars longer and bigger. They made the Yaris taller to compensate the lack of length compared to other manufactures in the same class. The Yaris feels very big inside but it isn't. Its just because of the tall roof and the windscreen moved to the front of the car. A little "space miracle".

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Its WAY bigger than an ECHO and 300 pounds heavier. Sorry Yaris rates a solid F in that department. It is NOTHING like a Starlet which is a very worthy car.
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Old 06-22-2010, 02:47 PM   #21
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The last starlet you know is the P6 from the 70s i guess?

Starlet P7 = L 3,70m H 1,40m
Starlet P8 = L 3,72m H 1,40m
Starlet P9 = L 3,74m H 1,40m
Yaris 1st gen = L 3,62m H 1,50m
Yaris 2nd gen = L 3,75m H 1,53m

while many others went to 4 metres and making their "small" cars longer and longer.

Weight is a different thing. Its more dependant from security or "luxury" equipment we could only dream of back in the years.

As i already mentioned they made the Yaris taller to keep up with the other small cars.
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:53 PM   #22
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no kidding. a new corolla is huge compared to what it used to be.
I thought so, I remember having trouble sitting in a corolla, my knees hit the dash (and I was the passenger)... a few years later I sat down in one again, and no issue... Was comparing probably a mid 90's model to a 2005ish model tho.
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Old 06-24-2010, 01:50 AM   #23
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I also feel like my 5 door Yaris HB (150.6" length) is a mini mini SUV.
It feels bigger and more stable that my old ECHO 4 door sedan (164.5" length)
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:38 AM   #24
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IMO, no. The Yaris is more along the lines of the cars that have been on the Asian and European markets for quite a few years. Built for daily use and functionality not simply slapped together for the sake of style. If the Yaris is a Micro-Mini Van or an SUV then so is the Smart Car along with quite a few others.

Besides, the “S” in “SUV” stands for ‘Sport’… which the Yaris is lacking without a little help.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:10 AM   #25
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Well, there's no "Sport" in any of today's SUVs, either.
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:27 PM   #26
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Does anyone care to define a crossover SUV or whatever it is we are comparing it to?

IMO, the term SUV is just a marketing gimmick that vaguely describes a vehicle
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:29 PM   #27
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I replaced my 01 suzuki Swift(geo metro) with a 2010 yaris 4dr hatch....definetly taller,more room etc.
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Old 06-24-2010, 09:05 PM   #28
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I don't consider this an SUV or mini-van, however I have gotten some surprisingly large items in mine, which is a 3 DOOR.

I moved recently, and was quite happy to be able to get a rather large looking TV/media center to fit!

To look at this piece of furniture you would not think in a million years it would fit in a 3 door Yaris. With back seats flat, package tray removed, and front passenger seat all the way forward, it went in.

Surprisingly roomy, this little thing.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:50 PM   #29
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Well, there's no "Sport" in any of today's SUVs, either.
Well played.
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:05 AM   #30
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If the Yaris is a Micro-Mini Van or an SUV then so is the Smart Car along with quite a few others.
uh? I don't see that, my friend. The SMART is infinitely small. NO trunk.
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uh? I don't see that, my friend. The SMART is infinitely small. NO trunk.
Well OK it was a bit of a stretch, but its tall, has a rear wiper and tips over easily just like a mini van Just in the wrong direction. OOPS!
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