Debunking fuel conservation myths...

[PhotoDu.de]

Originally Posted by fmicle

Really? daaaym

Dictionary definition for "pollutant": any substance, as certain chemicals or waste products, that renders the air, soil, water, or other natural resource harmful or unsuitable for a specific purpose.

I don't see how "denser air" is harmful or unsuitable for a specific purpose Besides, plants need to live too, CO2 is good for them...

I already talked about how denser air retains heat better and how that is harmful to the environment. I also found this article that also mentions the definition of pollution:

http://www.wunderground.com/education/cei.asp

"The definition of pollution in Webster's dictionary is "to make physically impure or unclean: Befoul, dirty." By that definition, carbon dioxide is not pollution. However, Webster's also has the definition: "to contaminate (an environment) esp. with man-made waste." Carbon dioxide is a waste gas produced by fossil fuel combustion, so can be classified as man-made waste."
This article continues to go on to talk about the negative effects CO2 has on the oceans.

This is also a nice article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ...515830975.html

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by PhotoDu.de

I already talked about how denser air retains heat better and how that is harmful to the environment. I also found this article that also mentions the definition of pollution:

http://www.wunderground.com/education/cei.asp

"The definition of pollution in Webster's dictionary is "to make physically impure or unclean: Befoul, dirty." By that definition, carbon dioxide is not pollution. However, Webster's also has the definition: "to contaminate (an environment) esp. with man-made waste." Carbon dioxide is a waste gas produced by fossil fuel combustion, so can be classified as man-made waste."
This article continues to go on to talk about the negative effects CO2 has on the oceans.

This is also a nice article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ...515830975.html

How about the harmful effects that morons have on society!

[PhotoDu.de]

Originally Posted by daf62757

How about the harmful effects that morons have on society!

What about them? Non sequitur much?

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by PhotoDu.de

What about them? Non sequitur much?

Well yes I do.....but not in this case!

[docB]

What about shale oil? The US has more oil stores this way then 2-3 OPECs. Why can't we just use it while we wean off of fossil fuels? This has been known since the early 1990's.

[PhotoDu.de]

Originally Posted by docB

What about shale oil? The US has more oil stores this way then 2-3 OPECs. Why can't we just use it while we wean off of fossil fuels? This has been known since the early 1990's.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ilstudy01.html

We can, but it's a lot harder to get than most of OPEC's oil.

[fmicle]

Originally Posted by PhotoDu.de

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ilstudy01.html

We can, but it's a lot harder to get than most of OPEC's oil.

+1

I read a very interesting article a few years back about what it takes for oil to make it from Kuwait into my gas tank. And the guy was saying the same thing, not only is desert oil very light, which makes it good quality (IIRC), but it also comes out at the right pressure, without any help. It's pretty much like this: stick a pipe in the ground with a tap at the upper end and open the tap...

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by docB

What about shale oil? The US has more oil stores this way then 2-3 OPECs. Why can't we just use it while we wean off of fossil fuels? This has been known since the early 1990's.

Because this is about making as much profit as possible. Both political parties are controlled by big oil and they won't do anything to change the price of oil. You could be paying a lot less for gas if it weren't political influence of the democrats and republicans.

[PhotoDu.de]

Originally Posted by daf62757

Both political parties are controlled by big oil and they won't do anything to change the price of oil.

Except promoting renewable energy policies, not that we do it every well.