Federal Govt. expecting shutdown on APRIL 9TH

[tomato]

No worries, Joey.

[JumpmanYaris]

Ok let's move this more into a point. All this its happening because of whats going on with the economy which BTW I think it's just doing ok,not how we all and they all want it but just ok. So there for to make up and save on payroll and other things (unknown) they are willing to shut down federal paying jobs. Why? Idk and who gets affected the most is the people that are actually working for their hard earn money to provide for their family.

NOW that been said, how many of you knows how much does a politician gets paid?
How many of you knows how much soldiers get paid? Not to mention the huge bonus you get when you get deployed. Do you know how much the US spends a year in supplies, wages and payroll? I understand supplies they need it.

My point is the US military has nothing to look for over seas any more or at least not as many there is over there, think on how much we could save and have available when you return most of them people specially high rank officers that all they do is sit in their office or tents doing nothing while the low paid soldier/airman/marines or seal is busting his or hers chops or even getting killed the millions of $ we could save from having to send supplies let alone the fuel for planes to transport it which is not cheap AT ALL, bottom point retrieve excessive militants that could be enjoying time with their families witch I am sure they would value that more then a big bonus on their check.

Cut wages to politicians that are just abusing of their authority and power using private jets, getting vehicles at government expenses or even better get that person replaced with someone that actually DO care because they been there and know how it is. Think of the millions if not BILLIONS OR TRILLIONS the government would have to count with if needed by doing so but hey what do I know I am just 26 yo who is just starting with life.

[tomato]

You know, I gotta agree that the economy is doing a heck of a lot better than it was 2 or 3 years ago when businesses were folding like crazy and our stocks were down in the toilet...

[Kioshi]

In conclusion, obama IS doing something better for this country. What bush messed up, obama has to spend time in fixing.

Those that say obama isnt doing anything......well you people probably didnt file taxes the last year or so and dont pay attention to the news....plain and simple.

I was in elementary in 1995, so id like to see what impact this govt shut down day or week will have.

School buses pretty much dont run to schools in my city...dont think it can get any worse for californians here....haha. we are already facing the most cuts than any other place in tge USA.

[JumpmanYaris]

Shutdown Averted

[frownonfun]

Originally Posted by STC

"Bread and Circuses" That's what I feel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses

There is no working government. It is an illusion. This is what I mean by the false political dichotomy. A two party system that represents itself to the American people that there is a difference. But in actuality, both are really the same when all is said and done. They are not working for you and I. And why? Because we play into it! We fuel its engine. We pick a side... the left or the right. We want our team to win. Watching TV you can see the game. Everything is a show now. Meanwhile, the real crux of the problem stems from the system of fractional reserve banking... the control of the globalized money supply - International Monetary Fund, Bank for International Settlements, World Bank, and all the centralized banks. But, heck we got, "Dancing With The Stars."

Cheers!

So what do you suppose we can do to overthrow the powers that be if not through the political system? And I don't ask to be disagreeable, I sincerely wanna know what you think. Feel free to PM me if you want so that we don't spark an ugly spat on the thread. I'm hoping you have some input because I don't know that I'm ready to resign myself to a life of Monday Night Football and indentured servitude.

[RedRide]

Our county is on the verge of being completerly taken over by the corporations (and the polititians that are in their hip pockets) and the complete destruction of the middle, working class.
We will all be complete slaves to the very few who hold all the money!

How long are we going fall for the complete lie that the more money we make for and give the very rich, the better they will treat us and the more jobs they will somehow create out of the goodness of their hearts?

So, vote wisely if you truly love your country!

[SilverBack]

Why even bother voting anymore? Doesn't matter who in power wins the next elections, we still lose.

[RedRide]

Originally Posted by SilverBack

Why even bother voting anymore? Doesn't matter who in power wins the next elections, we still lose.

That is exacty what they are counting on...... apapthy of the masses.

However the wotking class is revolting en masse around the world and the US poulation is finlly starting to wake up to the truth!

[Freedan]

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Give that a look see and you'll realize that 38 billion in "cuts" is nothing. The Deficit for this year is over 1.7 Trillion and everyone is fighting over 38 billion. Does that make sense to anyone here?

If you took home 2k a month and spends 3k every month, how long can you last by cutting back 38 bucks?

[STC]

Originally Posted by frownonfun

So what do you suppose we can do to overthrow the powers that be if not through the political system? And I don't ask to be disagreeable, I sincerely wanna know what you think. Feel free to PM me if you want so that we don't spark an ugly spat on the thread. I'm hoping you have some input because I don't know that I'm ready to resign myself to a life of Monday Night Football and indentured servitude.

Your last sentence is very telling. Indentured servitude is very appropriate terminology. I must say this new indentured servitude is in a global technocratic framework. This makes it even more difficult to break the chains, because you don't know you are chained. I will PM you.

Cheers!

[frownonfun]

Originally Posted by STC

Your last sentence is very telling. Indentured servitude is very appropriate terminology. I must say this new indentured servitude is in a global technocratic framework. This makes it even more difficult to break the chains, because you don't know you are chained. I will PM you.

Cheers!

Yeah well, I feel like I've taken the red pill, so to speak. It's just figuring out who exactly created this state of bondage and how we can fix it that I find a little more exacting.

[TRDMarty]

I wish the government would have shut down for at least 1 day.
For the 1 day they wouldn't have been able to spend any more money!!

[JumpmanYaris]

Originally Posted by TRDMarty

I wish the government would have shut down for at least 1 day.
For the 1 day they wouldn't have been able to spend any more money!!

What type of work you do? You must not have a gov. job

[Shinare]

Originally Posted by TRDMarty

I wish the government would have shut down for at least 1 day.
For the 1 day they wouldn't have been able to spend any more money!!

I work for a state agency and unfortunately we are already doing that, its called a "furlough" (temporary layoff from work, unpaid).

[Shinare]

Originally Posted by cdydjded

... As the private sector is suffering the public sector is flourishing.

I guess you failed to read the post directly before you own.

[frownonfun]

i think the private sector is doing a pretty good job of destroying itself at this point. but if blaming the government for everything gives you your few minutes of hate then by all means, go for it.

[Shinare]

Originally Posted by cdydjded

I did read what you post. But what you seem not to understand the difference between a "furlough" (temporary layoff from work, unpaid) & getting fired (permanent layoff from work, unpaid). Why should government workers not suffer the same fate as private sector workers? Why does the government not run like a business? The answer comes down to votes! You are not going to vote out of office the person who keeps you employed even though they are destroying the private sector.....

I take it then you are employed by a public agency? Seeing as how you know so much about it. My personal experience is that our small agency has FIRED PERMANENTLY people that we need and "retired" others in the past 3 years. In order to stem off any more losses the rest of us have to furlough every month so that we all can at least have a job.

You may think you understand how a public entity works, but you are mistaken. We all have a budget, and that budget is based on tax income. Because tax revenue is in the toilet (due to lower work force and more saving), our budgets have gotten cut back %10-%15 CUMULATIVE every year for the past 3 years. When we were barely squeaking by to begin with, it doesn't take a math genius to tell where you are going to cut your budget. Payroll is the only place you can make a dent of that magnitude. There's only so many paperclips and staples you can do without.

So tell me again, your theory on how public institutions are not affected by this recession?