That Prius is ...How Much?

[Black_griffin6]

I'd still take a Prius over the Chevy Volt. The Volt is a good concept, but poorly presented imho. It's just a sale's gimmick.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by Black_griffin6

I'd still take a Prius over the Chevy Volt. The Volt is a good concept, but poorly presented imho. It's just a sale's gimmick.

AND it cost what? $40,000?

The world is completely out of its mind if it thinks Im spending $40k for a car when I can get a Yaris for $15k.

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by Black_griffin6

I'd still take a Prius over the Chevy Volt. The Volt is a good concept, but poorly presented imho. It's just a sale's gimmick.

Not a sales gimmick....but a political gimmick.

People are reporting the car doesn't get the mileage under extreme hot or cold conditions and overall, it is just a flawed vehicle. Another failure for GM and the incompetent president in chief!

[Kiteless]

My 2 cents: The Prius is a nice sensible car with a lot of cool tech in it. It gets great gas milage and the plug in version will do even better. As stated it is also in a different class of car, offering bigger more comfortable interior and a surprisingly large cargo area, especially with the seats down.

The Prius is also mind bendingly BORING to drive. I drive a manual because its fun for me. An automatic is not nearly as interesting to drive for me, and the CVT is 9 million percent more boring than an auto. At least an auto changes gears, REAL GEARS.

Also I dunno about you guys but I only average about 36MPG without trying... The best I ever did was 39 and I was driving slow, drafting simi's, very gentle acceleration. I even removed the spare and the jack and anything else that was not bolted down to see if I could do any better and 39 average was the best I could do. I did get about 40 average driving to Arizona once, but that was 99.8 percent freeway driving. Of course I got my Yaris back when it was super cheap for $10,500 plus destination and all the other crap one has to pay for with a new car.

Bottom line, even at 36MPG the Yaris (even at its current $12-$13K price) is cheaper to own over a 5 year period than a moderately spec'ed out Prius at 30K and 50MPG average. The Prius is a much nicer car, but incredibly boring. The Yaris is much more fun to drive (especially in a manual), but a bit rough around the edges.

Then there is the maintenance. Anybody that knows their way around a car can work on a Yaris. Its a body, engine, and some tires, done. If not, they can take it to a garage. The Prius HAS to be taken to a Toyota Dealership, THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACE TO GET ANYTHING DONE TO A CAR.

Anyway just my 2 cents. They are different cars for different people. If I HAD to have a Hybrid I would go for the CRZ.

- Jason/Kiteless

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Kiteless

My 2 cents: The Prius is a nice sensible car with a lot of cool tech in it. It gets great gas milage and the plug in version will do even better. As stated it is also in a different class of car, offering bigger more comfortable interior and a surprisingly large cargo area, especially with the seats down.

The Prius is also mind bendingly BORING to drive. I drive a manual because its fun for me. An automatic is not nearly as interesting to drive for me, and the CVT is 9 million percent more boring than an auto. At least an auto changes gears, REAL GEARS.

Well, I agree there is no sporting and engaging feeling with the Prius, but I would say there's a different type of joy that comes from driving one, therefore, I wouldn't call in boring. It's hard to explain, but the high tech hybrid feel can be "fun" if you're into tech and are a fuel efficiency enthusiast.

Originally Posted by Kiteless

Also I dunno about you guys but I only average about 36MPG without trying... The best I ever did was 39 and I was driving slow, drafting simi's, very gentle acceleration. I even removed the spare and the jack and anything else that was not bolted down to see if I could do any better and 39 average was the best I could do. I did get about 40 average driving to Arizona once, but that was 99.8 percent freeway driving. Of course I got my Yaris back when it was super cheap for $10,500 plus destination and all the other crap one has to pay for with a new car.

Don't worry, that's pretty normal. You're already averaging higher than the EPA ratings. 50/50 city/highway rating is only 32 MPG. Not sure what your city/highway ratio is.

Originally Posted by Kiteless

Bottom line, even at 36MPG the Yaris (even at its current $12-$13K price) is cheaper to own over a 5 year period than a moderately spec'ed out Prius at 30K and 50MPG average. The Prius is a much nicer car, but incredibly boring. The Yaris is much more fun to drive (especially in a manual), but a bit rough around the edges.

Well, you'd have to get the very top of the line Prius V (5) to get it up to $30K. The adequately equipped Prius I starts at $22K and makes the most sense.

Originally Posted by Kiteless

Then there is the maintenance. Anybody that knows their way around a car can work on a Yaris. Its a body, engine, and some tires, done. If not, they can take it to a garage. The Prius HAS to be taken to a Toyota Dealership, THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACE TO GET ANYTHING DONE TO A CAR.

Good point. However, you can certainly bring your Prius to any shop for routine maintenance (oil changes, tires, ect.) which is likely the only work you'll need for a very long time. The Prius is proven to be as trouble free as the Yaris. Basically, two of the most reliable cars you can buy. You probably won't need to visit a Toyota dealer until well after 100,000 miles. Maybe 150K.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

Well, I agree there is no sporting and engaging feeling with the Prius, but I would say there's a different type of joy that comes from driving one, therefore, I wouldn't call in boring. It's hard to explain, but the high tech hybrid feel can be "fun" if you're into tech and are a fuel efficiency enthusiast.

It also helps to be seriously delusional when it comes to the bottom line.

[Kiteless]

All good points boys and girls!