New 2012 Yaris L, 5 speed

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by Hershey

" Don't forget the new SkyActiv engine for 2012, should boost their MPGs as well . "

Was looking at a MAZDA 3 sedan with the SkyActiv in the showroom . Very impressive . $20,000 kills it . Have seen the MAZDA 2 Sport with the 5 speed manual for $13,900 . That I like .

mpg for the mazda 2 should be higher considering how light it is. i suppose the mazda 2 will evenrually get the skyactiv but the 2012 doesnt have it.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Originally Posted by roxy1

mpg for the mazda 2 should be higher considering how light it is. i suppose the mazda 2 will evenrually get the skyactiv but the 2012 doesnt have it.

You are right, I did some digging on the 2012 2...a shame.

I didn't read that advertisement for the new 2 losing over 200lbs. until just now. I love Mazda, a mass-market enthusiast brand, that just happened to win LeMans in '91 against such giants as Mercedes. I love their obsession with shaving weight, even on their cheapest car, the 2.

I'll be in my bunk.

Just start building the 3-door in Mexico, Mazda! Just build the freaking car...nevermind. I'm sold on the Yaris, anyway. But the 2 has the best steering I have ever sampled in an economy car. You can steer with one finger above 5mph, and the gearbox is indeed as someone else above commented: "like silk".

Sorry. I get angry sometimes. I'm better now.

[sushiic]

Originally Posted by CanIHazYarisHatch?

I'll be in my bunk.

Just start building the 3-door in Mexico, Mazda! Just build the freaking car...nevermind. I'm sold on the Yaris, anyway.

I'd seriously consider the Mazda2, too - the main dealbreaker is the NO 3D!!

It's cheaper than Yaris, probably more fun (I didn't actually test drive)... But ya, why is it only 34 mpg (AT) highway, when the new Kia/Ford/etc. subcompacts are getting 40 mpg?? That is another big thing against the Mazda2.

Being a former Protege driver, I have a special interest in the Mazda2. And Mazda seems to be the one big Jap. company that isn't resting on their laurels and pumping out sub-standard, overpriced "bestsellers" subject to massive recalls!

Besides offering 3D, the Yaris's new backside, flatter-than-Mazda2 cargo load floor, lighter interior fabric, and gorgeous Lagoon Blue make it my top choice.

I'd like to see Hyundai bring over their I20 too - looks similar to Mazda2, but not quite as sharp.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Originally Posted by sushiic

I'd seriously consider the Mazda2, too - the main dealbreaker is the NO 3D!!

It's cheaper than Yaris, probably more fun (I didn't actually test drive)... But ya, why is it only 34 mpg (AT) highway, when the new Kia/Ford/etc. subcompacts are getting 40 mpg?? That is another big thing against the Mazda2.

Being a former Protege driver, I have a special interest in the Mazda2. And Mazda seems to be the one big Jap. company that isn't resting on their laurels and pumping out sub-standard, overpriced "bestsellers" subject to massive recalls!

Besides offering 3D, the Yaris's new backside, flatter-than-Mazda2 cargo load floor, lighter interior fabric, and gorgeous Lagoon Blue make it my top choice.

I'd like to see Hyundai bring over their I20 too - looks similar to Mazda2, but not quite as sharp.

Trust me, the 2 drives much better than the Yaris. You can feel everything in the perfectly-weighted steering. If it were offered here as a 3-door, I would be over on some Mazda 2 forum instead of here...but alas, Mazda have lost their mind and deprived us of the 3-door.