not so good of an experience

[thepartsmancometh]

not disagreeign that this is wrong, but...

selling someone a service they don't need isn't fraud, its just dishonest. fraud would be if they sold the service, and then didn't perform it. It's up to the consumer to not be duped by less than trustworthy people.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by thepartsmancometh

not disagreeign that this is wrong, but...

selling someone a service they don't need isn't fraud, its just dishonest. fraud would be if they sold the service, and then didn't perform it. It's up to the consumer to not be duped by less than trustworthy people.

Umm...they are replacing a perfectly good part. Whatever you call it, its taking advantage of someone.

IF your doctor told you you needed a kidney transplant and you really didnt, what would you call that?

How is the patient to know. He must trust the doctor (mechanic).

[thepartsmancometh]

hence the dishonesty. but, the point is, it's not illegal to sell people something they don't need. It's the consumer's burden to determine if they trust the seller and the product/service

I 100% totally agree that the aforementioned practice is wrong.

[bronsin]

Gee that stinks. My daughters Toyota wasnt running right and the dealer said $3200 to fix it. Which included a new radiator and water pump. My brother in law fixed it and we paid him $800 (cracked exhaust manifold) He said radiator and wp were fine.

[racerb]

Originally Posted by bronsin

IS there anyway they could be arrested for fraud? I mean, the car is two years old and they want to change the hoses and belts?

Anyway the feds could be persuaded to conduct a sting operation against these people?

A friend of mine went to this same Dealer for a noise in the front end of her Camry. She was told it was a bad drive axle, they would replace it to the tune of $450 plus labor. She decided to take it to a local garage for a second opinion, where the mechanic found a front tire with a seperate steel belt. Well needless to say, she replaced a $100 tire not $450 drive axle. I think she learned her lesson and want bo going back to this dealer anymore.

[Sam8madness]

Why to so many people assume that a dealer is any better then a local shop?

It doesn't matter what the building says, it matters who's doing it. Get to know your mechanic, and go to the same guy for everything.

If you can do it yourself, do it. I still don't understand why people don't check their own tire depth and rotate their own tires. Oil is completely beyond me, the simplest thing to do besides putting air in your tires (and people don't even do that most of the time.)

[thepartsmancometh]

Originally Posted by Sam8madness

Why to so many people assume that a dealer is any better then a local shop?

It doesn't matter what the building says, it matters who's doing it. Get to know your mechanic, and go to the same guy for everything.

If you can do it yourself, do it. I still don't understand why people don't check their own tire depth and rotate their own tires. Oil is completely beyond me, the simplest thing to do besides putting air in your tires (and people don't even do that most of the time.)

ding ding ding we have a winner.

its all about the mechanic! there are trustworthy mechanics at dealerships and independents. the trick is to find one. The only thing a dealership has over an independent is OEM parts and Toyota Techstream. A lot of the internal info can be solved with alldata, and the independent can get OEM parts if you want