fiat abarth or supercharge the yaris ?!?!?!?

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by vten

Im really torn between the 2. I had the regular 500 for 3 months and traded it in with a bigger car in order to keep the wife happy n safe. ... loved the car, no problem whatsoever with that and now the abarth is coming out but with the $25K price tags .... not really worry about the price...Im just itching for a new car.

the Yaris on the other hand, pretty much souped up. has about 26K miles on it, has the tanabe coilover, UR 23mm rear sway bar, 18" trd rims with brand new sets bf goodrich all season tires, rear disc conversion, bigger front disk upgrade, weapon R header, nitto midpipe and exhaust , Real Red Recaro seats , HID's on both headlights n fogs....N I have a set of stereos Plus the Blitz supercharger waiting to be install ...

I drive the car pretty much everyday....and I have 2 other supercharged cars ....

what do you guys think ....

You could finish the Yaris SC for less than the tax and licensing on the Fiat.

But if you dig the Imported from Detroit via Mexico Fiat's, go for it.

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

But if you dig the Imported from Detroit via Mexico Fiat's, go for it.

You may want to give this a read (I highlighted the relevant parts): http://diigo.com/0n7cs

Every major car manufacturer (including American, Japanese, German, and Italian brands) build their cars (at least partially) in Mexico for a reason: Quality workmanship at competitive prices.

Do you think they are all stupid enough to risk their image going to the toilet (along with losing billions of dollars) on a country that doesn't have the highest quality standards? Yeah... didn't think so.

@OP: Sorry for the but I'm honestly tired of ignorant comments like these.

[SAV912]

Originally Posted by tk-421

@OP: Sorry for the but I'm honestly tired of ignorant comments like these.

Same here. Dull witted, misinformed comments like the one below from toolbags who seem to register just to start shit...it's really getting old.

Originally Posted by 5h4wyhstrsdf

vten, as long as you're itching to blow a lot of money on a sub-car with shitty performance, why not get a Smart ForTwo and call it a day?

Shitty performance...aside from fuel economy and expected reliability (which is a stretch), the 500 SS wipes the floor with the Yaris. Now at 22K, there are cars that will outperform the 500, but if the only reason was raw performance, $22K will buy a lot of Fox Mustang and go-faster parts to get you well into the 10s at the strip.

Unfortunately, my life isn't lived a quarter mile or autocross at a time.

-C

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by tk-421

You may want to give this a read (I highlighted the relevant parts): http://diigo.com/0n7cs

Every major car manufacturer (including American, Japanese, German, and Italian brands) build their cars (at least partially) in Mexico for a reason: Quality workmanship at competitive prices.

Do you think they are all stupid enough to risk their image going to the toilet (along with losing billions of dollars) on a country that doesn't have the highest quality standards? Yeah... didn't think so.

@OP: Sorry for the but I'm honestly tired of ignorant comments like these.

What is your point? You simply are reaffirming that the 500 is no more of an Italian car than the Tundra made in San Antonio is a Japanese truck.

The idea that a modern car having a foreign heritage (in name only) gives it better handling, or makes it a less reliable car is ridiculous. Beyond the names the current crop of cars has little resemblance of the past offerings by those manufacturers, and the country of origin is rarely the final point of assembly in this price range for any car.

If the OP thinks the 500 is the best thing since sliced bread he should buy one. But he asked a question and people have offered their opinion. No one made you read it.

[SAV912]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

The idea that a modern car having a foreign heritage (in name only) gives it better handling, or makes it a less reliable car is ridiculous. Beyond the names the current crop of cars has little resemblance of the past offerings by those manufacturers, and the country of origin is rarely the final point of assembly in this price range for any car.

Where did TK state that the 500 handles better because it's built in Mexico? I didn't see that. I saw him say that many makers of all backgrounds have at least some form of manufacturing in Mexico because they screw things together well enough for cheaper than the Americans or the Canadians.

What was the point of YOUR post other than to bag on somebody that doesn't share your opinion?

-C

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by SAV912

Where did TK state that the 500 handles better because it's built in Mexico? I didn't see that. I saw him say that many makers of all backgrounds have at least some form of manufacturing in Mexico because they screw things together well enough for cheaper than the Americans or the Canadians.

What was the point of YOUR post other than to bag on somebody that doesn't share your opinion?

-C

I did not state that he expressed that, it was a general statement. I don't see anywhere in my reply where I bagged on anyone? You don't like what I posted, don't read it.

[SAV912]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

I did not state that he expressed that, it was a general statement. I don't see anywhere in my reply where I bagged on anyone? You don't like what I posted, don't read it.

How would I know I don't like it if I don't read it? Guess that's the standard reply from you though.

-C

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

If the OP thinks the 500 is the best thing since sliced bread he should buy one. But he asked a question and people have offered their opinion. No one made you read it.

I actually agree with the first part of your comment. But the second part was a clear jab at the quality of the car because it "comes from Mexico". Apparently my attempt at trying to clear that misconception was not well understood.

In closing... Why write this:

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

But if you dig the Imported from Detroit via Mexico Fiat's, go for it.

... if you agree with this?

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

The idea that a modern car having a foreign heritage (in name only) gives it better handling, or makes it a less reliable car is ridiculous.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by tk-421

I actually agree with the first part of your comment. But the second part was a clear jab at the quality of the car because it "comes from Mexico". Apparently my attempt at trying to clear that misconception was not well understood.

In closing... Why write this:


... if you agree with this?

Seriously, you don't get it? There was no jab because the car comes from Mexico, the jab was because the car is a CHRYSLER product.

The second part you did not get was in response to the various posts that indicate the car handles great because it is "Italian", or that it will die on the side of the road because it is a "Fiat". Neither of those theories are applicable to a Chrysler built in Mexico - ok, it could die on the side of the road due to the Chrysler DNA.

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

Seriously, you don't get it? There was no jab because the car comes from Mexico, the jab was because the car is a CHRYSLER product.

Wow I totally missed your point then... My apologies.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

You could finish the Yaris SC for less than the tax and licensing on the fiat

This.

I certainly realize that yaris isn't the be all and end all of the b segment...but as someone who has traded a more or less finished car in for something new....its not worth it.

New cars just depreciate so fast are so expensive I don't think I could stomach the purchase of another new car