Lighten weight. (HB)

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by why?

yea, why mod cars at all, it is just too much effort... Lets all run stock only and ignore any one else who mods cars for fun. Screw them, they must be mentally ill...
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I don't find there to be too much noise at all. That is what a stereo is for. I agree with taking out everything. I'd prefer to have a spare tire and a jack, but i still haven't taken the time to find one that would fit the 14's I have on it now.

Besides that though, lighter wheels help, the pulleys help, the flywheel would also probably help. etc, etc, etc. Trade everything you can for lighter parts.

And also learn to drive differently. Driving for gas mileage is completely different than just driving for fun. The FE forum has a ton of different ideas and ways to get much better gas mileage out of the car.

i didn't say that much asswipe..... i don't see the logic in stripping down a BRAND NEW cars interior for weight savings. if anyone wanted a full blown track car why not buy an older car and do that.

also the yaris only does make 106 hp stock. its not exactly meant to be tracked. it's made for fuel economy with hp numbers like that

[why?]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

i didn't say that much asswipe..... i don't see the logic in stripping down a BRAND NEW cars interior for weight savings. if anyone wanted a full blown track car why not buy an older car and do that.

also the yaris only does make 106 hp stock. its not exactly meant to be tracked. it's made for fuel economy with hp numbers like that

in other words you just said exactly what i typed.

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by why?

in other words you just said exactly what i typed.

your just a cool motherfucker....

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

i didn't say that much asswipe..... i don't see the logic in stripping down a BRAND NEW cars interior for weight savings. if anyone wanted a full blown track car why not buy an older car and do that.

also the yaris only does make 106 hp stock. its not exactly meant to be tracked. it's made for fuel economy with hp numbers like that

Makes no sense to me either... But there is a large contingent of people betting on B-Spec (based on stock engined Yaris, Fit, Mini, Fiesta, 500, 2 and others) to be a big hit in Pro (World Challenge and Grand Am) and Amateur (SCCA, BMWCCA and others) racing.

We like ours with a bit more punch so we converted to Production class specs where we can play with the engine, suspension and chassis more.

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

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also the yaris only does make 106 hp stock. its not exactly meant to be tracked. it's made for fuel economy with hp numbers like that

Hmmm... Would you regard the old MGB GT as a sports car? It certainly was marketed and used as one, but it weighed about the same as the Yaris and only had 95 hp, worse supension, and only got 28 mpg on the highway. Yeah - the Yaris could take that one any day.

And - for the record - everywhere else in the qworld but in the US, the iQ is a Toyota. Actually, not quite - in England it is marketed by Aston-Martin (yes, the James Bond car guys) as well. It's a little more dressed up, but it's an iQ

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

My truck has factory front and rear swaybars and big brakes, is it a racecar? Those are items on nearly every vehicle in production today, that is not race equipment.

Comparing what our purpose built racecar can do compared to stock street cars is pretty pointless. Given the same mods a car that starts with more power, better suspension and bigger tires will obviously be faster. The point was your dribble about the Yaris not being a racecar makes no more sense than the other cars you listed being "racecars", when they are simply street cars for a different market, not a single car you listed is prepared from the factory for the track.

The cars I listed, regardless of price, are factory racecars.

btw, just for fun, stock EVO MR 1:38.37 at Willow Springs. The fastest lap in our Yaris, 1:36.417.

your pickup truck comes with front and rear sways, strut bars, and brembo brakes??? i honestly find that hard to believe.

not a single car i listed is prepared for the track ???? you must be smoking or drinking some good shit.... the evo and sti out of the box are ready for any track. whether it be drag, autocross, circuit or whatever floats your boat...

now your next response will be where are the times and what not?? no i don't have them i could get them easily but its not that serious...

and then your next comment will be ohh a evo and sti are just econo cars as well just with a turbo slapped on it.. Yes your right but they still are made for the track anyway you think it.

Originally Posted by SailDesign

Hmmm... Would you regard the old MGB GT as a sports car? It certainly was marketed and used as one, but it weighed about the same as the Yaris and only had 95 hp, worse supension, and only got 28 mpg on the highway. Yeah - the Yaris could take that one any day.

And - for the record - everywhere else in the qworld but in the US, the iQ is a Toyota. Actually, not quite - in England it is marketed by Aston-Martin (yes, the James Bond car guys) as well. It's a little more dressed up, but it's an iQ

i wouldn't regard the MGB GT anything... true it had similar weight and what not, there is no comparsion. that was not considered an econo car, if im correct it would some sort of a cult following, same as the yaris but i dont see any way of comparing the two as at all

As for the Aston martin IQ, i know thats not the name, but you are correct i recall reading about it. if i recall correctly they should be available to the US sometime soon.

Look to everyone on here im not trying to burst anyone's bubble. if you want to track your car, put a racing stripe on it and some big numbers on the doors then do so to each is own. i am entitled to my own opinion.

keep modding, keep tracking, and keep those Yaris looking fresh !!!

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

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Look to everyone on here im not trying to burst anyone's bubble. if you want to track your car, put a racing stripe on it and some big numbers on the doors then do so to each is own. i am entitled to my own opinion.

keep modding, keep tracking, and keep those Yaris looking fresh !!!

You are indeed entitled to your opinion (even if we think you're wrong)

The point everyone is trying to make is that a car does not have to be built "track-ready" at the factory for it to be fun to race. For fcuk's sake - people race lawn-mowers....

[CPALK719]

Originally Posted by SailDesign

You are indeed entitled to your opinion (even if we think you're wrong)

The point everyone is trying to make is that a car does not have to be built "track-ready" at the factory for it to be fun to race. For fcuk's sake - people race lawn-mowers....

never said it wasn't fun to race, I MYSELF wouldn't try with it or waste money on motor mods. thats me though.... i will however start modding this bad boy to look nicer. some nice aftermarket wheels and a few other things here and there.

[KCALB SIRAY]

Originally Posted by CPALK719

understandable, im sure 9 out of 10 members here WILL NOT, ever embark in any race with this vehicle. if you want to do that buy a car thats MEAN'T to be on track. the very small aftermarket support for this vehicle does not allow it to be taken past a stock class etc..

yes i know theres turbo kits, supercharger kits... still doesn't make this a track vehicle straight off the lot. for the price of a brand new yaris, you can purchase a few years old 350z,s2000,even an evo and sti. which are actually mean't to be tracked or daily driven. with ungodly amounts of aftermarket support.

I am by no means trashing this car, because i own as well and i really enjoy it, but i know where it stands on a performance realm. technically speaking a bone stock honda cr-x would do circles on track against a yaris, due to the power weight ratio, and if not probably a $1,000 in suspension and tires which is more easily obtainable will ensure that.

Hmm, I guess NASCAR, NHRA, and all the other "track" cars out there were born that way. Chevy Lumina ((finger to chin, thinking))...and those are just two. Wonder what the other 100 or so organizations do? Ah that's right, sponsers ;) OH and "factory" assembled race cars, don't forget those, and and and and dirt track racers too. I'm sure there is a point in there somewhere, but I have to go now and change my non track oil and my wiper blades made from recycled Ferarri bushings. I might even rev the engine a little to get a tingle