tooter's manifold adventure...

[tooter]

Sorry, no flowbench... but I am going to dyno the experimental manifold, so a few runs will show if there's actually any improvement. If not, I'll simply cut off the plenum and try something else as I also have another even more strange idea I'd like to try out if this one doesn't work.

Pure R & D is fun.

[Golddeenoh]

smooth it out then make it Phallic for Garm. for some reason that now makes sense...

[4/20 NEVER FORGET]

I love following this thread. Keep up the good work!

[tooter]

Thanks, man...
This whole adventure has been no end of fun and it's not over yet.

Ideas are always connected to other ideas, so it's simply a matter of implementing one idea to see if it works... and if it does, choosing another idea to implement from the other ideas which are connected to the first idea.

I'm also fascinated with "microbusiness". A microbusiness has all of the qualities of a large corporation, except it operates on a very small scale. First you come up with an idea, then you design the concept, then manufacture a saleable product, then use the proceeds to buy the freedom to do the research and development to explore other ideas.

A microbusiness has one huge advantage over a large corporation. Just one person exercises complete control over the whole process from concept, to design, to finished product. So all that's necessary is for one person to have a clear vision of what they wish to accomplish, and to simply be motivated by their own curiousity to explore the possibilities.

I believe that everyone should enjoy the fun of becoming an enterpreneur by cultivating their own microbusiness... something in which they are genuinely interested, and which can be implemented on a small enough scale that they can do it "on the side".

[jetblast]

The American dream of being your own boss.

Look forward to the dyno runs. Would be interesting to see a turbo dyno run comparison also. Once I get this employment situation under control, I'm gonna have to catch you for one of those flanges to go with my intake.

[tooter]

Originally Posted by jetblast

The American dream of being your own boss.

Once you get a taste of piloting your own little boat... you never go back to pulling an oar down in the hull of someone else's ship.

Look forward to the dyno runs. Would be interesting to see a turbo dyno run comparison also. Once I get this employment situation under control, I'm gonna have to catch you for one of those flanges to go with my intake.

There's no rush as I always keep them in stock.
I think that the Corolla manifold would excel in a forced induction situation simply because it's so much less restrictive than the stock manifold.

[tooter]

Met with the CNC guys today and the 1ZZ throttle body base plate is in the works.

We came up with a simple practical design that will fulfill two purposes. The first purpose is of course the tooter e. t. manifold. And the second purpose is to make it possible to install a larger 55mm 1ZZ throttle body onto a Blitz supercharger.

Installation would involve cutting off the existing 1NZ 46mm flange with a hack saw, and welding on the 1ZZ 55mm throttle body base plate which will work for both the 46mm and 55mm throttle bodies. The smaller entrance to the SC would need to be flared out with a file or a Dremel to smoothly transition to the larger bore of the base plate.

The combination throttle body base plate/bellmouth will be 2 inches thick, with the top inch being the square 4 threaded stud base with the O ring gasket groove just like the original tooter adapter plate...



The bottom one inch will be a continuation of the 55mm diameter throat smoothly terminating at a rounded bellmouth profile similar to these...



...except that the outside diameter of the mouth will be exactly the same as the outside diameter of the intake. This combination base plate/bellmouth could be also easily be attached to any custom fabricated plenum if someone was building their own custom intake manifold from scratch.

I'm only having one extra made as I have no idea if there is any interest in this new product. It'll be $165 including shipping, so let me know now if anyone wants dibs on it.

[Viperoni]

Figured I'd drop this in here :)

http://www.racerxfabrication.com/pag...ge1/page1.html

[tooter]

Thanks for posting that, Viper. RacerX has some very clever ideas.

Notice the first manifold is the stock cast MR2 runners with their own custom plenum design attached to them And note the V8 Mustang throttle body base plate bore. It must be 80mm!



The straight runners are so long on the last manifold it's a cold air plenum because it's located in the trunk.



I've found a few others doing the same thing while searching the internet for manifold inspiration. Every other manufacturer I've seen starts with a basic one inch CNC baseplate as the foundation for their designs. That's the beauty of aluminium. It's cheap, light, and easy to machine and to weld.

[Bluevitz-rs]

As long as the MAF is in a tube the same size as stock, it doesn't make any difference what size the pipe is on either side of it.

[cali yaris]

toot toot!

[Bluevitz-rs]

The Enterprise D

[JustDidIt]

Sure looks fun. You have your own CNC machine?

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally Posted by JustDidIt

Sure looks fun. You have your own CNC machine?

No, but he's hired someone that does. This is all out-of-pocket expense for him, just to find out if it works. If you've got time, I recommend going through the whole thread to see how it's gotten to this stage.

[tooter]

Right now they're cutting the bellmouths on the back sides of the throttle body bases. They're like beautiful works of art...

[tooter]

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

No, but he's hired someone that does. This is all out-of-pocket expense for him, just to find out if it works. If you've got time, I recommend going through the whole thread to see how it's gotten to this stage.

That's right, Cranky. I have neither the skills or the machine. The CNC guys are the real wizards. They take my concepts and turn them into reality. It's a totally fascinating creative process that is as interesting as the finished products. And I can tell you from first hand experience... the curiosity to find out what happens can get expensive, but since I'm already totally hooked on exploring the unknown, I just have to keep going in order to find out.

[tooter]

I pick up the parts this afternoon. The second throttle body base will be done then.



This is my inspiration for the design...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGH6cm0XsTg

If it works one way... it'll work the other way.

[tooter]

They turned out beautifully...





This throttle body base plate also has a secondary function in that it makes it easy to install a 1ZZ throttle body onto any 1NZ supercharger. Just cut off the old baseplate with a hacksaw, flare out the end of the supercharger's intake with a grinder, and weld this one onto the intake.





This is a mockup of the et manifold layout...