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bronsin · 08-29-2012, 07:25 AM

My auto Yaris got 42 mpg in Canada last summer where the speed limit is 62 mph and the gas is enthanol free.

Your "break even" numbers are optimistic. 10 mpg divided into 100,000 miles = 1000 gallons of gas @ $3.60 a gallon is $3600.

At 100k miles youre a little more than half way there.

The average owner isnt saving a dime.

My brothers 1983 Renault Alliance got 53 mpg on the highway.

edmscan · 08-29-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

the gas is enthanol free.

I don't know where you got the impression that gas in Canada is ethanol free. We DO NOT have laws that mandate that the gas stations must post the ethanol content (like is the requirement in most US states), so it is very hard to tell the content of ethanol in your gas.

I am only aware of ONE gas station that ever posted their ethanol content .. and that was because they felt that ethanol was good for the environment. This didn't last very long .... and they went back to not advertising it.

You may want to check out this site .. to see ethanol free gas stations in the US and Canada. http://pure-gas.org/

bronsin · 08-29-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by edmscan

I don't know where you got the impression that gas in Canada is ethanol free. . http://pure-gas.org/

You have broken my heart.

edmscan · 08-29-2012, 09:05 PM

Probably the only ones that you can rely upon (in Canada anyways) as being Ethanol free is gas such as:

Esso (Parent company Exxon Mobil) .. "Supreme" Octane 91
Shell .. "Gold" Octane 91

It seems that the 91 Octane gasolines tend to be the ones where the Ethanol has not been added. So you have to ask yourself .... is it worth it ?

From what others have told me (here on YW) it is NOT worth the extra money to pay for these high end gasolines. I figure that I would need to get an extra 60 km out of a tankful in order to justify the increased cost. Maybe I will try a tankful ... to see how the "Ethanol free" gas compares. I normally use either Esso or Shell gas in their 87 Octane formulations.

I contacted both Shell and Esso .. and they told me that there is no requirement for them to display the ethanol content of their gasolines in Canada. (unlike much of the US where there is a requirement in most states to show Ethanol content generally over 1 %)

08-29-2012, 07:25 AM	#1
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	My auto Yaris got 42 mpg in Canada last summer where the speed limit is 62 mph and the gas is enthanol free. Your "break even" numbers are optimistic. 10 mpg divided into 100,000 miles = 1000 gallons of gas @ $3.60 a gallon is $3600. At 100k miles youre a little more than half way there. The average owner isnt saving a dime. My brothers 1983 Renault Alliance got 53 mpg on the highway. __________________ Synthetic Oil: Its All In Your Head Last edited by bronsin; 08-29-2012 at 07:36 AM.

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08-29-2012, 09:05 PM	#4
edmscan Drives: 2020 Corolla Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 549	Probably the only ones that you can rely upon (in Canada anyways) as being Ethanol free is gas such as: Esso (Parent company Exxon Mobil) .. "Supreme" Octane 91 Shell .. "Gold" Octane 91 It seems that the 91 Octane gasolines tend to be the ones where the Ethanol has not been added. So you have to ask yourself .... is it worth it ? From what others have told me (here on YW) it is NOT worth the extra money to pay for these high end gasolines. I figure that I would need to get an extra 60 km out of a tankful in order to justify the increased cost. Maybe I will try a tankful ... to see how the "Ethanol free" gas compares. I normally use either Esso or Shell gas in their 87 Octane formulations. I contacted both Shell and Esso .. and they told me that there is no requirement for them to display the ethanol content of their gasolines in Canada. (unlike much of the US where there is a requirement in most states to show Ethanol content generally over 1 %)