25 Car With Mpg Good As Hybrids

[jack black]

Originally Posted by why?

No, he is not an idiot that pretends he is drag racing like most people. That is all it really takes in the Yaris.

And yes, the Prius barely fits into the midsize category only because they made it as open as possible. It is still on the smaller size of the midsize spectrum, and unless you do a ton of city driving and drive to get the best gas mileage, as you might do, it isn't worth it. But hey, you want to use the masses to judge fuel economy? Fine. fuelly gets 47. Which is absolutely pathetic. The last time I actually had to drive on a freeway, I did that in my Yaris.

Now let's actually be honest here. The Prius and the Yaris are cross shopped. The main reason to by both is because of gas mileage. I looked at both before I bought my Yaris in may of 2006. I, like many on here went with the Yaris because the extra gas mileage simply was not going to make up the price differential short of $8 a gallon gas. And since you like fuelly so much, here is mine.

I almost never do anything like freeway style driving to boost that number up, the closest I get is state highways with tons of lights, cars stopping to take turns, and the like. And unlike most hypermilers, I use my cruise as much as possible, I very rarely drive to endanger like they do, about the only thing I do is drive the actual posted speed limit, and not act like a dumb ass drag racer.

Your post confirmed what I said before, people get mid to high 30's on average in Yaris.

Thanks for chiming in.

Look, I'm not anti Yaris. I bought one for my kid and think is a good and thrifty car for a single person.

But, saying that Yaris gets the same MPG as good hybrids is just a lie.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by jack black

But, saying that Yaris gets the same MPG as good hybrids is just a lie.

saying it can come close on mostly highway driving is realistic. saying the prius, in mostly highway driving, isn't worth the cost has certainly been established.

if someone wants the prius for more room, nicer interior, quieter drive, etc...that's fine. if they want to argue its worth the extra cost for what they will save doing mostly highway driving, that doesn't hold much water.

even at 40 mpg's vs 46 mpg's (real world highway, which is a legit real world number for highway prius driving)and 15,000 miles per year and $4/gallon gas, the prius only saves $196 per year.

[jack black]

Originally Posted by roxy1

saying it can come close on mostly highway driving is realistic. saying the prius, in mostly highway driving, isn't worth the cost has certainly been established.

Here we go, we came back the full circle to the initial post that claimed that hwy (only) numbers of some small cars are close to what hybrids can deliver.

There is no disagreement here. My point is that most people live and drive in cities, and no car (even small) can touch hybrid city MPG. This is well reflected in the real life fuelly numbers.

So pointing out that you or someone can somehow (probably slow driving) get 50 mpg is useless. Look, I can get 70 mph in mu Prius if I drive it slow enough, but I have enough sense not to brag about it.

As to what's "worth" the cost and what's not, most people spend $30,000 on a new car in this country. They typically get a gas guzzler. Is it "worth" it? Apparently it is for them.

For full disclosure, I paid $21,000 for my prius when new in 2010 and very happy with the car. I owned 11 different cars so far (all imports, 4 Toyotas) and Prius is the best car (but not most expensive) I have ever had. Very "worth" to me.

If you really wanted to save some money on a car, you wouldn't buy Yaris either, you would buy a beater manual Saturn and they deliver 30-40 MPG. My friend recently bought a 2002 one with low miles (no oil burning) for only $1200 and he likes it a lot. Any Toyota of this age would be in the $5000 rage.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by jack black

So pointing out that you or someone can somehow (probably slow driving) get 50 mpg is useless. Look, I can get 70 mph in mu Prius if I drive it slow enough, but I have enough sense not to brag about it.

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i know my entire trip (and all my work commuting) is done with the flow of traffic. the lifetime average of my yaris is 43.2 mpg.

let me know when you see someone on here bragging about driving like granny and getting 50 mpg in their yaris.