Yaris sales hit new low...

[roxy1]

I bought the yaris because I wanted a hatchback. corolla doesn't come in a hatch.

only the corolla with the cvt gets better mileage than the yaris. the corolla that starts at $16800 is the stick, rated at 28/37. the cvt in the corolla (and most every other cvt ive driven) takes the last bit of joy out of driving.

if Toyota wanted to push the yaris, they would market it more and push up inventories. in the subcompact market, hatch sales have either caught up or surpassed the sedan sales over the last few years.....sonic, fiesta, versa...and Honda doesn't even bother with a fit sedan.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by roxy1

I bought the yaris because I wanted a hatchback. corolla doesn't come in a hatch.

only the corolla with the cvt gets better mileage than the yaris. the corolla that starts at $16800 is the stick, rated at 28/37. the cvt in the corolla (and most every other cvt ive driven) takes the last bit of joy out of driving.

if Toyota wanted to push the yaris, they would market it more and push up inventories. in the subcompact market, hatch sales have either caught up or surpassed the sedan sales over the last few years.....sonic, fiesta, versa...and Honda doesn't even bother with a fit sedan.

I read Kimona's post #22 and Kal-El's post #23 (filled the 15.6" on my smaller windows laptop on whatever zoom setting I have right now in Safari). I highly respect Kimona's opinion and highly respect Kal-El's opinion, but I was still SMH. I was already starting to write the reply in my head. Two thoughts stuck out above others. One, we're kind of talking about apples and oranges because Kimona mentions/prefers an automatic, and Kal-El a sedan, while I prefer a manual 3-door hatch. Two, I thought if one took me, roxy1, and other like minded owners (from YW, and people posting their results/opinions on Yahoo Autos, Edmunds.com, etc.....who don't go crazy re hypermiling or maintenance, but do try to drive to generally drive to get the best fuel economy we can)....and took (let's say) 300 new cars for 300 people and 100 had a manual 3-door Yaris, 100 had a manual 5-door Mazda 2, and 100 had a manual Versa sedan and each one was driven the same number of miles (but over 200,000 for each), that the Yaris would have the lowest overall cost of ownership. It might not beat the Mazda 2 by much, but I think the Yaris would deliver the lowest overall cost. I think the Versa would bring up the rear, given those parameters. I started to scroll down to reply and......LOL, I see this as the next post. If I had elaborated beyond the above, some of our thoughts would have run together.