The 2 New Scions: iA & iM

[Kal-El]

I still can't get over Toyota selling a Mazda with barely any changes except for the front end. Even the tail lights are the same. The interior is all Mazda 2. The wheels even look the same. They really didn't want to spend much at all.

[CB900F2]

Agreed!... Wonder how they will market the car... Will it be Mazda quality built car, or ToyoMaz quality built car...

Originally Posted by Kal-El

I still can't get over Toyota selling a Mazda with barely any changes except for the front end. Even the tail lights are the same. The interior is all Mazda 2. The wheels even look the same. They really didn't want to spend much at all.

[Superfly]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

I still can't get over Toyota selling a Mazda with barely any changes except for the front end. Even the tail lights are the same. The interior is all Mazda 2. The wheels even look the same. They really didn't want to spend much at all.

Shocks me too. Seems like Toyota is just looking to minimize costs on a car they doubt will sell in large numbers. What really baffles me is that the upcoming Yaris is also supposed to share Mazda 2 underpinnings, so does that mean that dealerships will have the iA and the Yaris as the exact same car except on is a hatch and the other a sedan? Are they going to look exactly the same except for the front fascia? That is product overlap to the nth degree and foolish. Lazy. Just lazy.

Originally Posted by kimona

I think the Scion brand should just be deleted.

It needs to. So many members have posted suggestions about what Toyota could do to the Scion brand from funky Soul-fighters to hot hatches and yet we get a watered down Auris rebadge and a Mazda 2 clone. We aren't even getting the more powerful engines that Scion usually had in their cars. It is a freaking disaster.

To be honest, Toyota is starting to lose me. I am not seeing anything coming out that really sparks my interest. The BMW co-op is going to be stupid expensive and completely irrelevant to me, not to mention it will probably mostly be a BMW product. The new Tacoma is ok but will undoubtedly be priced in the low to mid-30s for anything beyond a RWD extended cab. The Prius redesign seems to be going nowhere and that might be a good thing seeing as how Toyota's designers seem to be modeling everything off catfish and carp. I don't get it, I thought Toyota was supposed to be headed back to its roots but it seems like we are just getting more half-assed redesigns and co-operative products than anything else.