More Consumer Reports Distortions/Lies

[NYC-SE]

You have to remember that a big part of their ratings are based on subjective factors, (they freely admit this BTW) and that is where a lot of these arguments start. I do pay attention to CR's subjective opinions (as I do for the opinions of Car and Driver, Motor Trend, online reviewers, etc.) but CR's real value is in their objective data, i.e. reliability statistics and owner satisfaction surveys. The Yaris does better when judged solely on this criteria.

In the current April Auto Issue of CR EVERY Toyota and Lexus vehicle had excellent or very good reliability ratings. (The Yaris had an excellent rating.) As for owner satisfaction there were no negative ratings. (The Yaris had a neutral rating, which was the lowest of any Toyota product.)

They also have test results such as acceleration, braking, accident avoidance maneuvers. These results are in line with their recommended subcompacts (Fit, Versa Note).

So it seems a large part of their final rating is attributable to subjective criteria. You know what they say about opinions...everybody has one.

[tarkus]

Originally Posted by NYC-SE

....it seems a large part of their final rating is attributable to subjective criteria.

In the article quoted in this thread, there's no factual information at all, and just some subjective criticisms with nothing to back then up. It reminds me of some film critics who trash talk a movie that everyone else raves about, and packs the movie theatres.



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[Justhandguns]

Originally Posted by NYC-SE

You have to remember that a big part of their ratings are based on subjective factors, (they freely admit this BTW) and that is where a lot of these arguments start. I do pay attention to CR's subjective opinions (as I do for the opinions of Car and Driver, Motor Trend, online reviewers, etc.) but CR's real value is in their objective data, i.e. reliability statistics and owner satisfaction surveys. The Yaris does better when judged solely on this criteria.

In the current April Auto Issue of CR EVERY Toyota and Lexus vehicle had excellent or very good reliability ratings. (The Yaris had an excellent rating.) As for owner satisfaction there were no negative ratings. (The Yaris had a neutral rating, which was the lowest of any Toyota product.)

They also have test results such as acceleration, braking, accident avoidance maneuvers. These results are in line with their recommended subcompacts (Fit, Versa Note).

So it seems a large part of their final rating is attributable to subjective criteria. You know what they say about opinions...everybody has one.

New to here, just got my brand new UK Yaris Icon 1.33 CVT. It is a bit sad that this gen3 facelift Yaris gets some negative reviews all around the world (yes, UK as well). What did they complain about? Same chassis? No stark updates? Yes, it is not an exciting hot hatch, but what I am looking for is reliability, economy and comfort, otherwise I would have got something like a Fiesta ST or a Polo GTi, wouldn't I?

The choice was obvious for me here, 5yrs warranty, cheap insurance, cheap servicing, one of the closest dealers to my home other than Peugeot etc etc. A lot of the car reviews these days are becoming very peripheral, they want the car to have a sporty handling, power engines, and yet, >50mpg efficiency, comfy and quiet ride with extra leg room at the back, with a 10inch ipad stuck on the dash which controls everything? What a joke!

Anyway, I am still enjoying my new car.