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09-10-2022, 09:44 PM | #1 |
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2zr Swap Question
For the folks that swapped to a 2zr, does it matter what year 2zr engine assembly you choose? I've found a low mileage 2017 and was curious if there is a difference between the years. I'm looking to swap into a 2007 HB. Thanks.
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09-11-2022, 09:14 AM | #2 |
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It depends. Are you just looking to use the basic engine assembly, or are you trying to use the computer, loom, ancillaries etc? If the later, be careful as there are various iterations of the 2ZR with late model engines and associated electronics most likely incompatible with earlier year cars.
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09-11-2022, 12:53 PM | #3 |
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2ZR-FE and 2ZR-FAE engines have different harnesses and ECUs. One madman has done an FAE swap into a 3rd gen but its quite a bit more involved than the 2ZR-FE and the power difference between the two is ~10 horsepower.
Look for a 2ZR-FE.
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My main issue is are the -fe versions (non -fea) the same? It is just easier to find a later model -fe motor with low miles in the junkyards in my area. From my reading the xd parts are the hard ones to find. |
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09-11-2022, 05:05 PM | #5 | |
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09-12-2022, 06:36 AM | #6 |
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You generally want to ensure that the engine you're swapping comes from the same generation/era as the car you're swapping it into.
I've talked at length with said "madman" about his 3rd gen swap. He ran into a lot of the same issues I did, including the Yaris ABS unit being incompatible with the engine ECU. He really had no other choice with that swap btw. You can't swap earlier model 2ZR setups into 3rd gen Yarii. Technically you can get the motor to run, but there are incompatibilities with body modules, immobilisers, dash clusters etc. Based on the above and my experience, I do not believe a late model 2ZR engine would work in an early model Yaris such as the NCP9X. Not seamlessly anyway. |
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09-14-2022, 12:29 AM | #8 |
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It depends. If it's a valvematic engine, I doubt it'll work as the engine won't run properly without the computer which isn't going to be compatible with the 2007 electronics. Did you guys get a 2017 model 2zr without valematic?
If the engine isn't valvematic, it may work if you have all the XD electronics. It also depends on whether the intake manifold has ACIS, but that would be fixable by swapping manifolds. I don't know if you guys got ACIS...? |
09-14-2022, 01:42 AM | #9 |
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so any engine from a 10th gen corolla, and scion xd would be the 2zrfe engine, if you get a motor from an 11th gen corolla you risk getting a valvematic motor which is probably gonna be more of a hassle to swap, also if i remember correctly the 2zrfe has a facelift variant startingin 2015 in which it has a some different styling cues and different oil filter housing bracket setup for a spin on oil filter, and a revised intake manifold. it should not matter at all but their is some changes to later model corollas with the updated parts which might a be a little better if you can get.
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09-14-2022, 06:31 PM | #11 |
i have a 2015 corolla engine (not -FAE), using xd harness and ecu. works fine for goin on its 3rd year. it had some extra cooling piping for i guess the transmission but its just plugged up now.
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09-14-2022, 10:41 PM | #12 |
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09-14-2022, 10:52 PM | #13 |
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For the record I can say with 100% certainty that the 2zrfe in Australia received ACIS from 2013 onward. Was actually a pain in the arse as the intake manifold did not clear the Yaris radiator fan shroud due to the extra bulk in the intake. The entire overflow bottle had to be cut off from the shroud and the shroud modified to clear the intake :(. Anyway, won't impact you guys :)
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09-15-2022, 12:41 AM | #14 |
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im going to ask the dumb question..whats the MPG change on the swap?....
i figure a slightly larger displacement shouldnt have to work neerly as hard to move such a light car also can you keep the factory slush box? |
09-15-2022, 03:09 AM | #15 |
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I get 5.5L per 100km on the freeway or 42.7mpg for those who are still subjected to imperial measurement.
You'll have to check the other threads re slushbox. Automatics are not my thing. |
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09-15-2022, 06:14 PM | #18 |
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The parts manual cross reference matches models in North America with the same intake as what we got in Australia. However, looking at all the 2zrfe engines on ebay.com and none of them have ACIS.
It's pretty obvious when you see an engine with this setup. There is a bulbous vacuum controlled actuator sitting in front of the throttle body with a bunch of tubing on top of the manifold. In addition, there's a vacuum chamber on the end of the head. Here's an example engine. |
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