finally found the 5w-20 TSB... - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

PetersRedYaris · 05-18-2007, 12:45 AM

If the TSB say's 5w-20, use 5w-20. You guy's are willing to use 0w-20 in it's place because AMSoil doesn't have a 5w-20? Switch brands!!! Follow the CAR manufacturers recommendation, not the oils. I know it probably makes no difference, but neither does using AMSoil over Mobil 1. They are equally good, but one comes in the recommended weight.

static808 · 05-18-2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PetersRedYaris

If the TSB say's 5w-20, use 5w-20. You guy's are willing to use 0w-20 in it's place because AMSoil doesn't have a 5w-20? Switch brands!!!

actually, im using the 0w-20 because of its added benefits. if i were to use mobil 1, which is very good oil i agree, i would also use their 0w-20. according to the mobil1 website:

"In addition to providing benefits for hybrid engines, Mobil 1 0W-20 is ideal for use in newer cars, trucks and SUVs manufactured by Honda, Toyota, Ford, Mercury and Chrysler, where a 5W-20 motor oil is recommended. Mobil 1 0W-20 not only meets the requirements of manufacturers recommending 5W-20, but it also provides superior low-temperature protection and the exceptional performance of a fully synthetic motor oil."

i misspoke, and saw that amsoil does indeed have a 5w-20, but their 0w-20 has much better test results and longer drain intervals. just trying to pamper my wifes car, since its a commuter car and the type of oil it gets is probably the only "modification" its ever going to see!! i am in NO way trying to peddle brands, i apologize if it sounded that way...

--B

PetersRedYaris · 05-18-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by static808

...i misspoke, and saw that amsoil does indeed have a 5w-20...

Ok, I was under the impression that AMSoil did not come in a 5w-20. Also, for those looking to drop to the 5w-20 weight but don't use synthetic, Mobil makes a conventional 5w-20 oil called Clean 5000. I'm sure there are other brands as well.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 05-18-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutzoids

Found a list of TSB for the Yaris... I just can't look at them...

Unless someone has an ALLDATA login?

TSB Number & Issue Date TSB Title
EL002-07 JAN 07 Charging System - Charge Warning Lamp ON
EL001-07 JAN 07 Electrical - Multiple Warning Lamps/Can't Shift A/T
PA001-07 JAN 07 Body - Replacement Bumper Cover Refinishing
BO023R-06 DEC 06 Restraints - Seat Belt Extenders
PG001R-06 NOV 06 Electrical - Battery Maintenance and Testing
PA002-06 NOV 06 Paint - Stains Under Rapgard (R)
SU007-06 OCT 06 Suspension - Shock Absorber Replacement Criteria
NV009-06 SEP 06 Body - Upper/Lower Windshield Ticking Noise
TC013-06 SEP 06 A/T - Reman Transmission Serial Number Locations
TC012-06 SEP 06 A/T - Serial Number Locations
EG035R-06 AUG 06 Exhaust System - Excessive Sulfur Odor
BO011-06 JUL 06 Interior - Park Brake Lever Boot Catches on Console
NV004-06 MAY 06 Interior - Front Seat Squeak Noise
BO017R-03 APR 06 Body - Interior Trim Panels/Garnish Loose
ST005R-01 APR 06 Steering - Vehicle Pulls To One Side Manual Supplement

MOST OF THOSE DO NOT APPLY TO US. but there are a few that does. namely a wiper cowl and nozzle replacement for those of us that feel it doesn't squrit fluid correctly.....

*Astroman* · 05-18-2007, 11:07 AM

I know a mechanic who has alldata. Perhaps I could get some info on the yaris this weekend? Anyone interested?

sambo42xa · 05-18-2007, 12:07 PM

jlift · 05-18-2007, 12:16 PM

Just ordered one gallon plus two quarts and an oil filter. Amsoil 0-20 100% synthetic and amsoil oil filter for the Yaris. This weight oil is a new product for them (amsoil.com) . ABout $25 a gallon and $6.25 a quart and $14 for the filter. Currently running Castrol full synthetic (not really 100% synthetic, though) Also ordered the Fujimoto drain valve. Will change all at 5,000 miles. Car only has <2,000 now.

spockmay · 10-14-2009, 07:03 PM

Howdy, I just bought a 2010 Yaris and the owner's manual says to use 5W-30. As the TSB was 3 years ago now, I'd have thought that they'd update the owner's guide. Should we be using the 5W-30 or 5W-20?

AlexNet0 · 10-14-2009, 07:57 PM

If you're manual states 5w-30 and it has a newer publication date than the TSB, then you should follow your manual.

mikenacarato · 10-14-2009, 11:25 PM

it doesnt seem like people here understand that the 1nzfe motor is NOT on the 0w20 list...it is on the 5w20 list. so from what i take on this tsb it is NOT ok to use 0w20 in the yaris.

bronsin · 10-23-2009, 02:30 PM

How long until people feel the need for 0W-0 oil? or even, -5w-0 oil?

R2D2 · 10-23-2009, 09:14 PM

Newhavenpatriot,

Bless you for taking the time to post this and enlighten us! I contacted Toyota about the same via phone (as well as my dealer) and they had no idea what I was talking about. This is what I always felt was intended by the bulletin, but up until now have had no proof. I made the decision to use 20 wt anyway, but it's nice to know it's ok! Thanks again!

R2

R2D2 · 10-24-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

How long until people feel the need for 0W-0 oil? or even, -5w-0 oil?

It won't end at 20wt, of that I am certain. I'm quite sure 0W-10 would work well in a lot of current engines out there-but it's not recommended or even obtainable very easily. Lubrication technology is evolving quickly right now-nano technology and biobased products to name a couple-and making thinner oils possible that increase efficiency and lower wear.

Your post above highlights the fact the SAE method of classifying oil viscosity is rediculous! It is antiquated and confusing to most-time for a revamp in my opinion. But yes thinner oils are coming!

R2

1stToyota · 10-24-2009, 04:06 PM

Well, when they get here I think that'll be the day I opt for a German sedan w/ a nice turbo diesel that won't want oil the consistency of kerosene in their expensive motor.

craigq · 10-24-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by R2D2

I'm quite sure 0W-10 would work well in a lot of current engines out there-but it's not recommended or even obtainable very easily.
R2

Get a hold of a Redline dealer

Redline 0W10 oil

Disclaimer: it's not recommended by Toyota, will void warranty, meant for racing, yadda yadda yadda...

R2D2 · 10-24-2009, 10:11 PM

I just found out about the Redline 0W-10 the other day-Royal Purple makes some too. Last I found it though it was like $14 a quart shipped. How much does the Redline go for? Thanks!

R2

craigq · 10-24-2009, 10:59 PM

Hey R2. It goes for 12.95 a quart on their website before shipping. Interesting oil, not sure about engine longevity as it's application seems to be for racing engines

It's possible one day 10 weights will be specified...

R2D2 · 10-25-2009, 02:34 AM

Thanks Craig! When 0W-10 goes mainstream the price will come down :)

1st,
Where's the love-thin is in! When the 20's went mainstream circa 2k many (including myself) cried foul. How dare they sacrifice longevity to help CAFE scores?! Guess what-they worked great!

The Euros are lagging a little behind but are heading in this direction also. The TDI is running 5W-30 now!

Here's a little light reading about viscosity
: http://yarisworld.com/forums/showpos...=363921&post=7

Check out Dr Haas Lambo UOA on BITOG with 0W-20 and G Allen's 4.0 Jeep on 0W-10!

05-18-2007, 11:07 AM	#23
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05-18-2007, 12:07 PM	#24
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10-14-2009, 07:57 PM	#27
AlexNet0 View User's Garage Drives: '07 Yaris 3dr Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rockland, ME Posts: 1,638	If you're manual states 5w-30 and it has a newer publication date than the TSB, then you should follow your manual. __________________ ---------- MI-YW ----------

10-23-2009, 09:14 PM	#30
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	Newhavenpatriot, Bless you for taking the time to post this and enlighten us! I contacted Toyota about the same via phone (as well as my dealer) and they had no idea what I was talking about. This is what I always felt was intended by the bulletin, but up until now have had no proof. I made the decision to use 20 wt anyway, but it's nice to know it's ok! Thanks again! R2 __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One

10-24-2009, 04:06 PM	#32
1stToyota Drives: 2013 Chevy Spark 1LT 5-speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,185	Well, when they get here I think that'll be the day I opt for a German sedan w/ a nice turbo diesel that won't want oil the consistency of kerosene in their expensive motor. __________________ 1997 Lincoln Town Car - *SOLD* 2008 Scion xD (w/ automatic) - SOLD 2008 Yaris HB - SOLD

05-18-2007, 12:45 AM	#19
PetersRedYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2005 Scion xB Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota Posts: 1,059	If the TSB say's 5w-20, use 5w-20. You guy's are willing to use 0w-20 in it's place because AMSoil doesn't have a 5w-20? Switch brands!!! Follow the CAR manufacturers recommendation, not the oils. I know it probably makes no difference, but neither does using AMSoil over Mobil 1. They are equally good, but one comes in the recommended weight.

05-18-2007, 12:16 PM	#25
jlift Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 54	Just ordered one gallon plus two quarts and an oil filter. Amsoil 0-20 100% synthetic and amsoil oil filter for the Yaris. This weight oil is a new product for them (amsoil.com) . ABout $25 a gallon and $6.25 a quart and $14 for the filter. Currently running Castrol full synthetic (not really 100% synthetic, though) Also ordered the Fujimoto drain valve. Will change all at 5,000 miles. Car only has <2,000 now.

10-14-2009, 07:03 PM	#26
spockmay Drives: 2010 Yaris 3Dr LB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 5	Howdy, I just bought a 2010 Yaris and the owner's manual says to use 5W-30. As the TSB was 3 years ago now, I'd have thought that they'd update the owner's guide. Should we be using the 5W-30 or 5W-20?

10-14-2009, 11:25 PM	#28
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	it doesnt seem like people here understand that the 1nzfe motor is NOT on the 0w20 list...it is on the 5w20 list. so from what i take on this tsb it is NOT ok to use 0w20 in the yaris.

10-23-2009, 02:30 PM	#29
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,783	How long until people feel the need for 0W-0 oil? or even, -5w-0 oil?

10-24-2009, 10:11 PM	#34
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	I just found out about the Redline 0W-10 the other day-Royal Purple makes some too. Last I found it though it was like $14 a quart shipped. How much does the Redline go for? Thanks! R2 __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One

10-24-2009, 10:59 PM	#35
craigq Drives: '07 Yaris, '12 GLI Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 100	Hey R2. It goes for 12.95 a quart on their website before shipping. Interesting oil, not sure about engine longevity as it's application seems to be for racing engines It's possible one day 10 weights will be specified...

10-25-2009, 02:34 AM	#36
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	Thanks Craig! When 0W-10 goes mainstream the price will come down :) 1st, Where's the love-thin is in! When the 20's went mainstream circa 2k many (including myself) cried foul. How dare they sacrifice longevity to help CAFE scores?! Guess what-they worked great! The Euros are lagging a little behind but are heading in this direction also. The TDI is running 5W-30 now! Here's a little light reading about viscosity : http://yarisworld.com/forums/showpos...=363921&post=7 Check out Dr Haas Lambo UOA on BITOG with 0W-20 and G Allen's 4.0 Jeep on 0W-10! __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One Last edited by R2D2; 10-25-2009 at 03:35 AM. Reason: Addition

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