Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site
 

 


 
Go Back   Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site > Technical Forums > Performance Modifications
  The Tire Rack

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-17-2007, 12:35 AM   #1
07typeS
 
07typeS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 White Toyota Yaris Type S
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 439
Send a message via AIM to 07typeS
Its a little off center, can you explain why it needs to be mounted dead center of the pipe? What about CAI's where the piping is longer and you cant get the sensor more centrally located? Do you mean it should be located a little closer to to the throttle body?

Like I said I am not 100% done with it, I wont say I am until I am completely happy with it.

the maf adapter plate lines up perfectly and fits great.

I want to try some more trial and error on the silicone hose, im thinkin a 45 degree angled piece would work better...

when im done I will get pictures together and probably write up a how to piece it together yourself and also offer others who dont have the skills/tools/time to pull it off themselves...

feel free to ask questions guys
__________________
TRD Springs w/ KYB Struts and Shocks, Custom CAI w/ K&N filter and pre filter wrap, Weapon R Header, Stock 15 inch alloys, Dezod Performance pads, Tanabe Front Strut Bar, 35% front door Tint and 20% Rear doors back Tint, De-Badged Ass, Custom painted flat black interior, Pioneer deh-p6700bt w/ IPOD hookup, Infinity components up front with custom mounted tweeter, Inifinity 6x9's out back, 1 12" kicker comp cvr........
07typeS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2007, 02:56 AM   #2
fu_im_from_texas
 
fu_im_from_texas's Avatar
 
Drives: Liftback
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 137
Send a message via AIM to fu_im_from_texas
Exclamation velocity profile

Quote:
Originally Posted by 07typeS View Post
Its a little off center, can you explain why it needs to be mounted dead center of the pipe? ...
The velocity of air passing through the intake does not flow at a uniform speed. At the edges of the pipe the velocity of the air is 0 (theoretically), as shown in the figure below. For more info, do a google search on "no slip boundry condition" or "velocity profile."

The MAFsenser is calibrated for the velocity of the air at the center of the pipe...

pm me if your interested in suggestions to maximize air flow...i have studied the topic extensively...
Attached Images
File Type: bmp untitled.bmp (52.5 KB, 307 views)

Last edited by fu_im_from_texas; 06-17-2007 at 03:24 AM.
fu_im_from_texas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2007, 03:11 AM   #3
Vanderkitten
 
Vanderkitten's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 243
Quote:
Originally Posted by fu_im_from_texas View Post
The velocity of air passing through the intake does not flow at a uniform speed. At the edges of the pipe the velocity of the air is 0 (theoretically), as shown in the figure below. For more info, do a google search on "no slip boundry condition" or "velocity profile."

The MAFsenser is calibrated for the velicity of the air at the center of the pipe...

pm me if your interested in suggestions to maximize air flow...i have studied the topic extensively...
Playin' with the big brains now... time for bed!!
__________________
Dave V- Creator-Vanderkitten- Clothing for Women Who Kick Ass!
Many thanks to our sponsors:
Weapon-R http://weapon-r.com
Megan Racing http://www.meganracing.com
Les Schwab Tires http://www.lesschwab.com
317 graphics http://www.317graphics.com
Vanderkitten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2007, 03:23 AM   #4
churp
Clean and (dis)Functional
 
churp's Avatar
 
Drives: Yaris 2dr--Black Betty
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Tropical Minnesota
Posts: 562
Quote:
Originally Posted by fu_im_from_texas View Post
....
The MAFsenser is calibrated for the velicity of the air at the center of the pipe...
Soooo....you're saying if off center the maf doesn't sense as much velocity and would send less fuel, causing a lean condition?
__________________
____________
Old School Cobble Jockey
churp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2007, 03:32 AM   #5
fu_im_from_texas
 
fu_im_from_texas's Avatar
 
Drives: Liftback
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 137
Send a message via AIM to fu_im_from_texas
Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by churp View Post
Soooo....you're saying if off center the maf doesn't sense as much velocity and would send less fuel, causing a lean condition?
i think the maf wont see as much air, the computer will see that the airflow falls outside the acceptable tollerence, and a code will be thrown...

just a guess though...depends on too many conditions to make a blanket statement...i think a lean condition would be worst case...
fu_im_from_texas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2007, 02:19 AM   #6
fu_im_from_texas
 
fu_im_from_texas's Avatar
 
Drives: Liftback
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 137
Send a message via AIM to fu_im_from_texas
Talking shameless self-pat on the back

Quote:
Originally Posted by fu_im_from_texas View Post
i think the maf wont see as much air, the computer will see that the airflow falls outside the acceptable tollerence, and a code will be thrown...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 07typeS View Post
...it threw a code on my first decent trip this morning which was less than 30 miles....
if i get any better at predicting the future, im going to have to apply for a crystal ball permit...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg who20is20a20psychic.jpg (27.0 KB, 117 views)
fu_im_from_texas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2007, 03:54 AM   #7
fu_im_from_texas
 
fu_im_from_texas's Avatar
 
Drives: Liftback
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 137
Send a message via AIM to fu_im_from_texas
Exclamation clarification

Quote:
Originally Posted by fu_im_from_texas View Post

The MAFsenser is calibrated for the velocity of the air at the center of the pipe...
Clarification: Center measured along the diameter, not the length ... clear as mud, right?
fu_im_from_texas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2007, 12:17 AM   #8
PetersRedYaris
 
PetersRedYaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 2005 Scion xB
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: The Black Hills of South Dakota
Posts: 1,059
Quote:
Originally Posted by fu_im_from_texas View Post
Clarification: Center measured along the diameter, not the length...
This is more clear than my statement, but is exactly what I meant.
PetersRedYaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2007, 11:11 PM   #9
YarisGuy
 
Drives: 2006 Yaris
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 203
Quote:
Originally Posted by fu_im_from_texas View Post
The velocity of air passing through the intake does not flow at a uniform speed. At the edges of the pipe the velocity of the air is 0 (theoretically), as shown in the figure below. For more info, do a google search on "no slip boundry condition" or "velocity profile."

The MAFsenser is calibrated for the velocity of the air at the center of the pipe...

pm me if your interested in suggestions to maximize air flow...i have studied the topic extensively...

Excellent post. Thank you for the pics!
__________________
It's a red yaris
YarisGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Intake Systems Decision Maker.. Blenjar Performance Modifications 25 09-15-2007 11:07 PM
WR Secret Weapon Intake Dyno Tested.. WRLEO Performance Modifications 70 05-17-2007 04:00 PM
Intake VS modified filter housing Spades Performance Modifications 19 03-30-2007 01:30 AM
WR INTAKE SYSTEM : YOU GET $100 FOR DYNO RESULTS ! WRLEO Sponsors Classifieds Area 0 02-22-2007 11:14 AM
Cold Air Intake vs. Short Ram Intake nevermorez Performance Modifications 1 01-24-2007 05:25 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:23 PM.




YarisWorld
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.