2012 Yaris Discussion

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by JumpmanYaris

its kinda dumb if you ask me, If anything i think it should be renamed

Yeah, maybe it should be called a Matrix as that is what it now looks like...

[eric81]

Sadly, America will never see the version with a Nav system in it, or leather.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Originally Posted by yarisugi

same pics, better view. I assume the bottom one is the RS model

Why are the back of the rear windows the opposite angle of the back window/door frame? It looks bad... and why are they trying to take away our awesome pod looking car, and adding angles and sharp corners that just don't fit. The taillights look like a versa now... the 2008 looks so much better to me.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by eric81

Sadly, America will never see the version with a Nav system in it, or leather.

...or push button start/smart access...or digital climate control, ect...

Part of the reason is that Americans generally won't pay for loaded small cars as Europeans do. If Americans want feature laden cars, they get mid/full size cars.

Ford is testing the American market with their offerings in the Fiesta. The Fiesta can indeed be had with all the stuff we mentioned and much more. Even heated seats! Never mind the Ford MyTouch and Sinc systems which are high tech computer systems not found in cars costing 2-3 times as much.

This Fiesta costs over $19,300. How many people are willing to pay that for a sub-compact? Some, but not many. After all, Honda Fits can also command such a price with nav. Yet the Fit doesn't include nearly as many features.

[Bredayaris]

This Fiesta costs over $19,300. How many people are willing to pay that for a sub-compact? Some, but not many. After all, Honda Fits can also command such a price with nav. Yet the Fit doesn't include nearly as many features.

I think you guys do have to get use to high prices for sub-compact cars.
My Yaris costs $33,000 a few years ago.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Bredayaris

I think you guys do have to get use to high prices for sub-compact cars.
My Yaris costs $33,000 a few years ago.

Is that USD?

In the US, that will buy you TWO brand new loaded 2011 Yaris's. A typical mid line model is only about $14-$15K.

Or you could buy a new Mercedes, BMW, or Lexus.

[Kal-El]

I just reversed the images to see what a proper left hand drive format will look like. Suddenly looks better IMO.

[Bredayaris]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

Is that USD?

In the US, that will buy you TWO brand new loaded 2011 Yaris's. A typical mid line model is only about $14-$15K.

Or you could buy a new Mercedes, BMW, or Lexus.

The diesel Yaris is more expensive than the petrol one.
But the cheapest Yaris with a 1 liter engine is around $16K.

A Toyota iQ is expensive too from $16K - $30K

The cheapest C-class for example in the Netherlands is $50K.

To buy a car in Europe (The Netherlands) is a expensive task.
But that's not where it ends, we have very high taxes and very high gasoline prices.
Scandinavian countries are more expensive though.

I hope that the new Yaris comes with HSD.
It will be cheaper to drive a hybrid Yaris for me instead of the diesel.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Bredayaris

The diesel Yaris is more expensive than the petrol one.
But the cheapest Yaris with a 1 liter engine is around $16K.

A Toyota iQ is expensive too from $16K - $30K

The cheapest C-class for example in the Netherlands is $50K.

To buy a car in Europe (The Netherlands) is a expensive task.
But that's not where it ends, we have very high taxes and very high gasoline prices.
Scandinavian countries are more expensive though.

I hope that the new Yaris comes with HSD.
It will be cheaper to drive a hybrid Yaris for me instead of the diesel.

That's outrageous.

For reference, what's the minimum wage out there?

[marlondog]

It's a Versa-Vitz! An illegitimate child of a Versa Momma and a Vitz Daddy. They met at one of the "Micro-Meets".

[Kal-El]

I don't think we've talked about it yet, but notice the cup-holder change. It appears they are properly moved to the conventional locations. I think I see the slots to the side of the e-brake. Then there's the openings in front of the shifter. Too dark to make out, but the cup-holders could be there as well. They're definitely not in front of the vents anymore.

[Astroman]

I wouldn't call that "proper" placement for the cupholders. One of my favorite features is where they are now. It also doubles as a nice cubby.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Astroman

I wouldn't call that "proper" placement for the cupholders. One of my favorite features is where they are now. It also doubles as a nice cubby.

Yeah, it really is personal preference. But I, and probably a majority, believe that between the front seats is the ideal spot. Closest reach, not covering vents or anything else, and safe (not going to spill hot coffee on you or dash). This is why it is the location in 98% of all cars today.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with the current holders, but definitely prefer them to my side where my hand rests.

[eric81]

The heater vents keep the coffee hot, and the A/C keeps the soda cold... win/win.

[2009BBPliftback]

It def seems to be in line with toyota's new design language, I don't think its that bad honestly, I just would like mine as a 3 door. Although I'm holding out for the rumored model thats going to slot BELOW the FT86.. word floating around the web is a RWD 1.5l that sounds more appealing to me!

[YariSCAL]

Bummer - If I liked the Matrix, I would have bought one!
I'd call it dumb stop

Originally Posted by djct_watt

More goodies for you guys from
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[YariSCAL]

I'll just have to make my '08 last forever

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

The taillights look like a versa now... the 2008 looks so much better to me.

[djct_watt]

The cupholders in my xA were designed that way and I hated it... Ended up using the rear cupholders instead... Reaching around the shifter gets annoying