Wow, my Yaris got in an accident. You won't believe the situation

[jpmck03]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

What was his excuse for backing up?

Wait till you hear this one. I always park way out in parking lots to avoid door dings. A couple months ago I parked in the farthest out spot behind a guy maybe early 60's on a cell phone in a Cadillac, gabbing away. I had a funny feeling about pulling in behind him but did anyway. His car was facing out of the parking space so if he was leaving, he would pull straight out. The front end of my car faced his trunk.

I get out of my car and I'm halfway across the parking lot when I hear BAM!!! I knew before I turned around, it was my car. He backed into my car when there was no reason for him to be backing up.

He started to pull away but I ran over and stood in front of his car and every other word out of my mouth was "you stupid MF". He was either going to run me over or turn off his car. I screamed at him to turn his MF piece of crap car off.

Then I went over to the driver's door and every other word out of my mouth was you stupid MF - WTF are you doing? Can't you f'ing drive??? He got out and went around to the back and I was afraid to look but there wasn't a thing wrong with the front of my Yaris and he hit it hard! I had some bug splatter on the front bumper and got a towel out to wipe it off to make sure the bug splatter really wasn't paint.

Normally I'm a very easy-going person, but something came over me and I shoved him up against his car and he said "woman don't touch me again or I'm calling the police" and I said you go right ahead and I will get you for trying to leave the scene, all the while calling him a stupid MF.....I told him my car was new and a stupid asshole like him that can't even look behind before backing up shouldn't be driving (my car is a year old now but still new to me and smells new).

I proceeded to call him MF probably another 100 times before I got in my car. He took off but I decided to harass him more so I followed him. He was weaving in/out of lanes in lots of traffic around the shopping mall but I managed to get behind him - he tried to swerve to another lane to lose me but I wanted to make sure I got his license plate in case I needed it later. Finally he pulled over into a muffler shop parking lot thinking we're going to duke it out or something but I kept on driving :) I bet he won't forget me for awhile!

Anyway, I'm very protective of my Yaris and no one is going to hurt it and get away with it!

Yikes!

Well, I'm going to offer you some perspective from an outside reader, based on what you wrote:

So, you were walking to the store, with your back to your car, heard a loud noise, "knew before [you] turned around, it was [your] car" and turned around to see him pulling out of the parking spot he was in?

Then ran in front his car, verbally berated him, forced him out of his car to look at the damage (or lack there of) to your car, committed battery on him, and continued to verbally berate him?

Which was followed up by threats of filing a police report in which there's no evidence that a crime occurred (you didn't see it happen and didn't see any damage), continued to harass him by following him around in your car.

So, (I'm not a lawyer, but) we have:

• Assault
• Battery
• Harassment
• Reckless driving
• Stalking

And all of this, when there was absolutely no damage to your car whatsoever.

Granted, I don't know every detail of what happened, and maybe you didn't write it down, but it sounds like you were really in the wrong here. There was obviously a better way to handle this situation, as A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby mentioned. You know, calm, cool, collected?

Personally, I know that if I was in that man's situation, as soon as I was shoved up against my own car, the gloves would have been off. Hell, I'm surprised that he showed as much restraint as he did. Luckily he was a lot cooler than you were.

[ilikerice]

^was thinking the same.. I actually feel bad for the old man..

[DebbyM46227]

Whatever, people. It's not like I'm some young punk - I'm in my 50's but I certainly don't act my age (obviously) and if I must say so myself, I look really good for my age. And I don't like people trashing my things that I work hard for.....and you were not there to see what happened....there were others who came up to me and were ready to be my witness should I need one-which I told them thanks but no thanks. He was trying to leave without even getting out to see if he did any damage. And I knew it was my car before I turned around as there were no other cars parked in that area of the lot.

I'm tired of punks on cell phones who can't drive and talk at the same time, no matter how young or old they are. This guy couldn't even drive in a parking lot and talk on his cell at the same time.

Not like he was some "old man" either. Very fit for early 60's.

Now I'm going, be-rate me all you want. I'm not hijacking this thread any longer. And I don't even know why I bother with this forum, I see some of the stupidest questions being asked sometimes.

So there.

[Dadams]

.....It's a forum, just sayin'

"Well, I'm going to offer you some perspective from an outside reader, based on what you wrote:"

No need to get bent out of shape just cuase someone put in their own opinion...

[bronsin]

People make mistakes. They do bad things. We all do.

Sometimes the best thing to do is say:

"Hey let me buy you a beer."

[Hamster]

Man, this just pisses me off. I've amazed at how fantastically bad people can drive. A few weeks ago, I was driving along on a Sunday afternoon, and some stupid lady in a Camry who must've been in her 30's was driving northbound....in my southbound lane. Scared the crap out of me. Luckily, it was only a 35 mph street, and there was no one on the road beside me. I was able to switch lanes before she had the chance to hit me.

Anyway, back to the OP. You are very lucky that the guy admitted fault. There are crooks out there who intentionally back up into people, and claim that the victim rear-ended them. It's a type of insurance fraud. Be careful out there.

[Dadams]

Originally Posted by bronsin

People make mistakes. They do bad things. We all do.

Sometimes the best thing to do is say:

"Hey let me buy you a beer."

+1

[Black_griffin6]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

Whatever, people. It's not like I'm some young punk - I'm in my 50's but I certainly don't act my age (obviously) and if I must say so myself, I look really good for my age. And I don't like people trashing my things that I work hard for.....and you were not there to see what happened....there were others who came up to me and were ready to be my witness should I need one-which I told them thanks but no thanks. He was trying to leave without even getting out to see if he did any damage. And I knew it was my car before I turned around as there were no other cars parked in that area of the lot.

I'm tired of punks on cell phones who can't drive and talk at the same time, no matter how young or old they are. This guy couldn't even drive in a parking lot and talk on his cell at the same time.

Not like he was some "old man" either. Very fit for early 60's.

Now I'm going, be-rate me all you want. I'm not hijacking this thread any longer. And I don't even know why I bother with this forum, I see some of the stupidest questions being asked sometimes.

So there.

I'm sorry but you really need to chill out.
A car in the end is just a machine, it's not worth trying to assault someone over when he really didn't even do anything.

My car is barely even 3 years old and it's already been hit twice.
The first time was by some lady in a Jetta who decided it would be a good idea to use the middle left turning lane as a merging lane to turn right (hate it when people do that), I got some of her paint on my car and ended up with a little ding. Nobody was hurt, no harm done.

Second time was by my girlfriend's father who backed up his Audi A4 into the passenger's side of my car.
He caused over 1,600 dollars in damage, and yeah I was upset but I was calm about it and he paid for the damage and in the end nobody was hurt and it was fixed.

And you know what? I gained a lot of respect because I was calm and cool about it, if all I did was blow up on him and tell him what a futhermucker he is and throw him up against his car then he'd hate me and think i'm some asshole.

Above all that, i'm only 20 years old and I think i'm setting a better example then someone who is more then double my age.

Now granted, I don't care for people who talk on their phones while driving. I say either talk on the phone or drive the car. But still, chillax a bit.
I don't blame you for acting the way you did, but I think you could have handled it differently.

Anyways. Sorry for the hijack again.

/rant

[ilikerice]

Originally Posted by DebbyM46227

Whatever, people. It's not like I'm some young punk - I'm in my 50's but I certainly don't act my age (obviously) and if I must say so myself, I look really good for my age. And I don't like people trashing my things that I work hard for.....and you were not there to see what happened....there were others who came up to me and were ready to be my witness should I need one-which I told them thanks but no thanks. He was trying to leave without even getting out to see if he did any damage. And I knew it was my car before I turned around as there were no other cars parked in that area of the lot.

I'm tired of punks on cell phones who can't drive and talk at the same time, no matter how young or old they are. This guy couldn't even drive in a parking lot and talk on his cell at the same time.

Not like he was some "old man" either. Very fit for early 60's.

Now I'm going, be-rate me all you want. I'm not hijacking this thread any longer. And I don't even know why I bother with this forum, I see some of the stupidest questions being asked sometimes.

So there.

I understand people get outraged about things that are important to them.. your yaris is one of them. nothing wrong with that. like jmpck03 said, I am sure there is more to the story. But as you wrote it, it sounded like you over reacted.

Like my post earlier, we had a Halloween party saturday night, I was parked across the street on a curb. A friend backed into my door. (ill take pictures later). I was PISSED, cuz out of all our friends, I am pretty much the one that obsesses about my car. Everyone else puts any money into their cars, which is fine, to each their own. She came to me and told me what she did. but I was calm and said, we will work this out. It will get fixed.

[Dadams]

Originally Posted by Black_griffin6

futhermucker

Nice use of language!

[Hamster]

Originally Posted by Black_griffin6

I'm sorry but you really need to chill out.
A car in the end is just a machine, it's not worth trying to assault someone over when he really didn't even do anything.

So true, at the end, it can be fixed, which is something to always keep in mind. My nerves were really tested when my car was keyed by my futhermucker (hah!) neighbors at the apartment/townhouse complex where I was living a year ago. Caused around $2,000 in damage, and meant that four panels on my Yaris (which had only around 5,000 miles on the odometer at the time) had to be refinished. I mean, I absolutely knew these neighbors did it, but I couldn't prove it. It took a lot of nerve to not beat these people up. While I'm really crazy about my car, I decided that it wasn't worth getting arrested for assault. So, everytime I saw these neighbors, I just gave them a dirty look. Whenever I saw them coming home, I lifted the miniblinds and stared at them through my window. I think it must've creeped them out, because they never touched my car again. See, there are better ways of handling things, even though it's really hard. I wound up moving to a new place, where I now have a lockable garage. I also got the car fixed, so I no longer have to stare at those key scratches. I was out my $100 deductible, but it's just money. I'm glad I didn't do anything that would've gotten me a criminal record.

[DevilGirl]

To the OP:

I know how you're feeling. While I wasn't actually hit, I had 2 scares in parking lots yesterday.

In the first one, I was already backed out of the parking spot, getting ready to put it in first gear and go, when I noticed that the backend of another car was getting progressively closer to my drivers door. (Angled parking spaces). I laid on the horn, threw it in first gear, and slammed the accelorator so I could get out of there as fast as I could in case the guy continued backing up. It was an older guy (60's-ish) talking on a cell phone... I don't know whether he looked before backing up or not, but even still. If he had, he would have seen that I was already backing out of my parking spot (and yes, I did look, and continued to look while backing up slowly).

The second instance was in a Walmart parking lot. I had parked about midway up the aisle. I backed out of my spot without issue, starting going to the end of the aisle away from the store, was in a forward movement, when all of a sudden a young kid (late teens/early 20's) started to pull out of their parking spot on my passenger side. Going forward! How/why he did not look before pulling out, I have no clue. But thanks to fast-acting wheel jerking, I was able to manuever away from his car before he could hit my front passenger panel.

Needless to say, I was quite upset after those 2 instances. Especially since they happened within less than an hour and a half of each other, in either not busy parking lots or in the section of parking lots that are not as busy. You'd think this would have happened in the parking lot where there was a line of cars just trying to get into the lot, let alone getting out of there, with the whole lot being pretty much full.

[A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby]

bumper now off

if you know what a normal Yaris looks like, you can tell what damage is here.

or use the handy insurance adjuster yellow X's

Just some more bent metal needs replacing and a busted clip. over double the original estimate.

[A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby]

some of the first words out of my mouth at the time of the incident, were
'this is gonna be a 1000 dollar repair'

actual itemized list

1 E 6 01 Cover,Front Bumper 5211952961 $210.68 S1 0.9 SM
>> RECOND COVER WAS 3 DAYS FOR DELIVERY SO SHOP ORDERED O.E.M.
2 L 6 13 Cover,Front Bumper Refinish S1 3.5 RF
2.4 Surface
0.6 Two-stage setup
0.5 Two-stage
3 E 21 Reinf,Front Bumper 5213152280 $153.05 S1 1.0 SM
>> BENT ON LT SIDE REPLACE PER INVOICE
4 L 21 Reinf,Front Bumper Refinish S1 0.7 RF
0.7 Surface
5 E 1038 Clip,Frt Bumper MULTI-PART $0.95* S1 INC SM
>> TOTAL OF 1
6 L 116 Prep Raw Frt Bmpr Cvr Refinish S1 0.5 RF
0.5 Surface
7 N 30 Emblem,Frt Bmpr Cover Additional Labor 0.2 SM
8 L 16 Cover,Tow Hook Access Refinish S1 0.4 RF
0.3 Surface
0.1 Two-stage
9 RI 40 Brkt,Front Lic Plate R & I Assembly S1 0.1 SM
10 E 26 Brkt,Front Bumper Mtg LT 5201252020 $110.42 S1 0.3 SM
>> BUCKLED / MASHED REPLACE PER INVOICE
11 L 26 Brkt,Front Bumper Mtg LT Refinish S1 0.1 RF
0.1 Surface
12 E 460 Brkt,Front Bumper Mtg LT 5316552030 $30.92 S1 INC SM
>> BENT REPLACE PER INVOICE
13 L Bracket, Front Bumper Refinish S1 0.4* RF*
14 I 63 Crsmbr,Rad Panel Upr Repair 1.0* SM
>> align
15 EC FACTORY HARDWARE QUALITY REPL. PART $5.00* SM*
>> clips
16 EC FLEX - ADDITIVES QUALITY REPL. PART $12.00* S1 SM*
17 SB P&M INCREASE-GUIDE Sublet Repair $142.90* S1 SM*
>> SHEET 3-10
18 SB P&M TAX @ 75% Sublet Repair $11.41* S1 SM*
19 EC RUSTPROOF QUALITY REPL. PART $10.00* S1 0.1* SM*
20 L TINT COLOR-ADDITIONAL Refinish S1 0.5* SM*
>> INC IN ADP REFIN, INITIAL TINT,SPRAY TEST PANEL, COMPARE TO VEHICLE
>> ADDITIONAL TINTING ALLOWED VS. BLENDING DUE TO SLIGHT COLOR
DIFERENCE
>> PRIOR TO LOSS & STONE CHIPS ON HOOD
21 N WET SAND & BUFF Additional Labor S1 0.5* SM*
22 SB Hazardous Waste Removal Sublet Repair $3.00* SM
22 Items
MC Message
01 CALL DEALER FOR EXACT PART # / PRICE
13 INCLUDES 0.6 HOURS FIRST PANEL TWO-STAGE ALLOWANCE

Gross Parts $506.02
Other Parts $27.00
Paint Materials $100.80
Parts & Material Total $633.82
Tax On Parts Only @ 6.250% $33.31
Labor Rate Replace
Hrs
Repair Hrs Total Hrs
Sheet Metal (SM) $38.00 2.9 1.7 4.6 $174.80
Mech/Elec (ME) $38.00
Frame (FR) $38.00
Refinish (RF) $38.00 5.6 5.6 $212.80
Paint Materials $18.00
Labor Total 10.2 Hours $387.60
Sublet Repairs $157.31

Gross Total $1,212.04
Less: Deductible Waived-
Net Total $1,212.04

[joe keeney]

A guy in a mini van that explains everything honey do henpecked miserable no brained idiot.

[Betrivent]

Ouch.. the rad mount is bent up and back..

[LEXX]

and i thought the moron who decided to make a right hand turn from the left lane... going 50 mph... while i was driving in the right... was one of the dumbest nofos breathing... he ended up paying for all my damages also ... left bumper and wheel

i haven't posted any pics on here since because the car doesnt look the same to me with the new painted bumper :o/

[Yury]

Originally Posted by A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby

Labor Total 10.2 Hours $387.60
[/B]

the labor rate is 38$? that's cheap. this would've cost more around my neck of the woods