oil drain plug- gasket

[yaris-me]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

That's only a concern with the Fumoto

The Fram has no lever, it has the internal pressure seal that only gets activated when you screw on the drain hose during an oil change, plus it also has the redundant outer seal and screw on cap, and it's a lot smaller.

Most Fram SD p/n's @ amazon are less than $8.00, over $20.00 less than the Fumoto @ amazon

I believe ours is the SD-3 [M12x1.25], not a M14x1.50 as previously mentioned.

The valve can NOT accidentally open. You can open and close the valve to get samples. You can control a valve. You can not sample as easily with the Fram.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by yaris-me

The valve can NOT accidentally open. You can open and close the valve to get samples. You can control a valve. You can not sample as easily with the Fram.

Look above. The Fomoto is a much larger target, that's what I worry about, again, not too worried about the actual lever. Any large item like a board will knock that valve off, easily. I just worked on a Lexus that got its transmission dipstick cut in two, ruining the transmission, and it was hidden waaaay better than the exposed Fumoto valve. The Fram valve is a whole lot smaller target. And you can sample very easily with the Fram. Their drain hose threads on, so simply control how much you want to tighten, same as how much you want to pivot the Fumoto lever.

[yaris-me]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Look above. The Fomoto is a much larger target, that's what I worry about, again, not too worried about the actual lever. Any large item like a board will knock that valve off, easily. I just worked on a Lexus that got its transmission dipstick cut in two, ruining the transmission, and it was hidden waaaay better than the exposed Fumoto valve. The Fram valve is a whole lot smaller target. And you can sample very easily with the Fram. Their drain hose threads on, so simply control how much you want to tighten, same as how much you want to pivot the Fumoto lever.

Obviously you want a Fram. So why not, just buy it. You won't be happy otherwise.

[kustom play]

yea i never ever have changed the oil gasket. Never had a leak

[bronsin]

If I was going to do it Id use the FRAM one. That Fumoto looks like potential $$$$$ trouble to me! Gee I COULD eliminate my 14mm wrench from the tool kit though!

[CTScott]

I looked at the Fram one at WalMart and wasn't impressed with the quality of it. The thing that struck me about the Fumoto is that it is an incredibly well made valve (hence the price tag). It is definitely a larger target, but if it took a hit, I think it would rip away a chunk of the oil pan before it actually broke. The Fram seemed like it could be deformed quite easily.

Our oil pan is an easy target for road debris, considering how close it is to the ground. If I ran over something that I couldn't avoid in the road, I would pull over as quickly as possible to assess damage.

[mikenacarato]

that fram stick out just as far as the fumoto. ive had a fumoto on my car for a year now and have nothing but great things to say about it! I highly recommend the fumoto valve...and before you say 'it will get whacked off by something' take it from someone who is ACTUALLY lowered. It doesnt come anywhere near hitting speed bumps of hitting banked turns on the nashville superspeedway (pretty rough transition from turns to the straighaway).

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by mikenacarato

that fram stick out just as far as the fumoto. ive had a fumoto on my car for a year now and have nothing but great things to say about it! I highly recommend the fumoto valve...and before you say 'it will get whacked off by something' take it from someone who is ACTUALLY lowered. It doesnt come anywhere near hitting speed bumps of hitting banked turns on the nashville superspeedway (pretty rough transition from turns to the straighaway).

Close. About 3/4" vs 7/8"

Anything that's in your path and large enough will do some whacking, and if that's the case I'd much rather be round instead of flat, and $8.00 still pwns $28.00, imo.

[N2scouting]

I have a 2009 3DRHB. My oil plug does not use a gasket.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by N2scouting

I have a 2009 3DRHB. My oil plug does not use a gasket.

If it's like my '08, it's stuck to the pan. Unless it comes loose by itself, best not to disturb it. It's coated aluminum and the coating breaks loose if disturbed, or at least mine did, but it didn't matter because I did away with my plug and gasket.

[POORSHA]

I use the fram, 3 changes no problem

[JonS]

I installed the Fram a few weeks ago. The quality is very good and should not have any issues.

[R2D2]

I have had two Fumoto valves on two different cars and they are of excellent quality-I understand they have been granted OE status in Japan. I highly recommend them.

On my Yaris I was a little uneasy however due to the location of the drain plug. I ended up ordering a Fram from Amazon due to the low price so I could check one out. I think they are also well made and have since out fitted several engines and a compressor I service at work with Sure Drains and am happy with them- especially considering they were less than 8 dollars each. I have enough on hand also to outfit our small fleet of police cars.

My opinion is one would do well with either the Fumoto or the Sure Drain. They make changing oil even more fun and provide a much easier and cleaner means of obtaining UOAs for those who are inclined to.

1st, I have found the Sure Drain works well for sampling with the hose removed from the drain fitting. I would draw a few ounces, discard, then draw a sample. Either way much easier to get a non-contaminated sample than using the standard drain plug.

R2