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Old 05-18-2010, 11:28 AM   #1
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Haven't seen any car inspectors in my lifetime so I'll try and keep it that way. Super easy to swap back in the stock cluster if need be, and no-one has to know this one was in it (except you guys...).
yea and your mileage is off which is going to throw an odometer fraud flag. On our AZ titles there is a section that you have to mark if the miles don't match the cluster. It raises an odometer fraud warning written on the title. I know its required to give mileage when the car goes in for inspection to renew the reg. This is the reason why i never swapped my cluster. Dont want my resale value tanking to worthless when the title is flagged for odometer fraud.
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Old 05-11-2010, 02:36 AM   #2
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Yeah I don't have any of that write down my milage stuff. And I do not plan on putting the stock cluster back in any time soon at all. I've got milage calculated in KM now to know when my oil change intervals are, and I do all my own servicing, and if there is something I don't know how to do I seek the help of a friendly mechanic, not a dealership, so I should be good.
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:13 AM   #3
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do it, kilomters is fun. I'm running an RS cluster, did one early oil change, and now I am set...every 8000kilomters for oil change.

And on a side note...dealers can pull the actual mileage of your car regardless whether the cluster says one thing or the other. I've already told my dealership about it, 1800mile difference...and they dont seem to care~~

If you are driving the car down to the ground, who cares...free to do whatever you feel like w/ it. And if trade-in time comes, they can send the cluster to a company and have them calibrate to correct engine miles..it's a win-win deal, as long as you are honest as possible w/ the people~~
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:17 AM   #4
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And on a side note...dealers can pull the actual mileage of your car regardless whether the cluster says one thing or the other. I've already told my dealership about it, 1800mile difference...and they dont seem to care~~
Really? Lol the entire San Francisco to LA trip and back was on my stock cluster. Well doesnt matter, my "real" mileage is still way under the warranty miles per year.
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Old 05-12-2010, 01:34 AM   #5
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And on a side note...dealers can pull the actual mileage of your car regardless whether the cluster says one thing or the other. I've already told my dealership about it, 1800mile difference...and they dont seem to care~~
really? i was told they could not.....
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:05 AM   #6
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i was gonna do that, keep my millage low on one cluster and add it to the other but i thought about it and between calculating interval for oil change and pain in the ass to keep swapping it out, i didn't find it worth it (also since my car is new i do all the servicing at the dealer, they could possibally give me one more headache.

other thing to keep in mind(in canada at least) when u renew ur ownership every year u write down ur millage and the government keeps it on file....
Each province is different i guess. Registration renewal does not require the mileage to be written down here. The only time the "approx" mileage is given to the registrations (SAAQ in Quebec) is when you sell the car. Then the mileage you TOLD them is written down the system. When the next time the car is sold, well, either you lie or the cluster is not right, they will know.

Either way, it is illegal to roll back the mileage on the cluster to convince someone the car has less mileage than it actually has. Nothing stops you from having a 19k km cluster on a 230k km car at the time it is being sold.. You cannot hide the fact the car has 230k.
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:32 AM   #7
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Big O tires told me that when i went to put my rims on, and the toyota rep said the same...
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:24 PM   #8
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^ there is...since its white, might be hard for some to see~

Good job on finding it. I couldn't find one, so i went RS.
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i might change my dash lights to red, more evil looking.
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:23 PM   #10
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I had no clue the actual instrument cluster housed the mileage of the vehicle? I thought it would have pulled it from an external computer.... So does this mean if you unplug your instrument cluster and drive by GPS, you can keep low mileage on your instrument cluster??? seems way to easy for people to mess around. Ron
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Old 05-13-2010, 06:50 PM   #11
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Does seem too easy.... but I'm pretty sure it is that easy.

Takes less than a minute to take it out too. Pull off three things that are just clipped in, and then remove two screws.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:20 AM   #12
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hey guys ive always anted to do that conversions how did u do it is it plug and play or what does it needs any wiring diagrams or something pleasee tell me
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:34 PM   #13
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Why not use the original cluster until you reach the mileage reading of the second cluster? Then when you swap, the number for the mileage reading is accurate.
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Old 05-15-2010, 05:17 PM   #14
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Marty, in my case I'd have to drive for over a year to catch up with the new cluster.... so that's not happening.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:57 PM   #15
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Marty, in my case I'd have to drive for over a year to catch up with the new cluster.... so that's not happening.
Its not THAT long. I'd do it.
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:48 PM   #16
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Hm, I was under the impression from prior threads the gauge cluster would pull the mileage from the cars computer. Was I correct or is this because it's metric vs. standard?
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Old 05-18-2010, 01:17 PM   #17
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Hm, I was under the impression from prior threads the gauge cluster would pull the mileage from the cars computer. Was I correct or is this because it's metric vs. standard?
No. It turns out that the odo data is only stored in the cluster. Also, the only switchable clusters for km vs miles is the JDM digital one (the Australian one can't, and I am not sure yet about the European digital ones).
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do you know the name of the company on ebay? Ive been hunting this down awhile..looks great
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