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WeeYari · 07-26-2012, 11:56 AM

Manifold name looks cool, and certainly personalizes it.

I'm thinking that anybody who is not in the know is going to call it Jooter.

tooter · 07-26-2012, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeeYari

Manifold name looks cool, and certainly personalizes it.

I'm thinking that anybody who is not in the know is going to call it Jooter.

Maybe that's a Canadian or European thing... but here, lower case j's extend below the writing line and are dotted and not crossed, and upper case J's are not fully crossed like T's are.

Either way is fine. It's catchy. Logos need to be catchy.

cali yaris · 07-26-2012, 12:00 PM

"Jooter" is COOL.

Golddeenoh · 07-26-2012, 04:22 PM

looks like your "j" and "t" made a baby or you put the lower case "t" backwards :D

tooter · 07-26-2012, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golddeenoh

looks like your "j" and "t" made a baby or you put the lower case "t" backwards :D

Yes, I did that on purpose to create "mirror image" symmetry between the two t's and o's. Something unusual and out of the ordinary is what makes a logo catchy.

cali yaris · 07-26-2012, 04:55 PM

Quote:

upper case J's are not fully crossed like T's are.

They are in serif fonts (Times/etc.).
The font for this forum is a sans serif font (verdana/helvetica/arial) where this is no crossing at all or "half crossed".

Helvetica J:

Times New Roman J:

CrankyOldMan · 07-26-2012, 07:05 PM

Augh! He said serif!!

I agree about the catchy logo idea though, and can appreciate the effort to use simple shapes for easier manual G-code.

tooter · 07-26-2012, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

Augh! He said serif!!

I agree about the catchy logo idea though, and can appreciate the effort to use simple shapes for easier manual G-code.

Yes. I just thought like the machine would think:

2 full circles oo
2 semi circles, each with a + at one end
1 3/4 circle with a horizontal _
1 semi circle with a vertical l

tooter · 07-26-2012, 07:49 PM

Picked up all the pieces from the CNC machine shop today...

Cranky... you can see the the areas on the inside of the outer runners that will be undercut with a hand file to the line scribed by the machine that matches the Yaris intake ports on the head. The solution was so simple.

Next up is an installation clearance test of everything including test fitting the throttle body...

...and then it's off to the welder.

Viperoni · 07-26-2012, 08:10 PM

Lookin good :)

thebarber · 07-26-2012, 08:28 PM

slap that shit in the car!

tooter · 07-26-2012, 08:37 PM

One step at a time...

Bluevitz-rs · 07-26-2012, 10:53 PM

What's sealing the adapter for the TB to the manifold?

tooter · 07-27-2012, 12:02 AM

A stock Corolla throttle body gasket seals the adaptor to the manifold...

It's a thin stiff metal sheet with rubberized coating on both sides. All of the gaskets used are OEM.

Those three black allen bolts holding the adaptor to the manifold are screwed into the original threaded Corolla throttle body mounting holes.

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 07-27-2012, 03:43 AM

I can't wait to see what this does on a dyno. So close!

malibuguy · 07-27-2012, 07:27 PM

Damn damn damn hurry up!!! ;)

Billiam · 07-27-2012, 07:45 PM

So is this thing going to be a "shower" or a "grower"?

tooter · 07-27-2012, 09:18 PM

Far more likely to be a "shower".

Remember that the Toyota engineers could model the plastic intake manifold in absolutely any shape, so I'm certain that what they came up with was the best for overall driveability.

Now that all the parts are back home, I just took a cloth measuring tape to the runners of both manifolds and am suprised to discover that the runners are just slightly longer than the stock Yaris runners!

Yaris runners, end to end: 19"
Tooter runners, end to end: 20"

Just by looking at both, Dang! I would have sworn that the Corolla's were a lot shorter! It was the larger diameter that only made them appear that way. This bodes well for low end performance, although I still believe that low end torque will suffer somewhat because larger diameter runners means slower air velocity at low rpms. Now how much low end loss is an open question which will be settled on the dyno.

Here's a pic of the inside of the stock manifold...

You can see the entrance to the first runner at the bottom which is at 90 degrees to the manifold's intake, and the plenum is quite large.

In contrast, these runners are all pointing directly at the manifold's intake and are all the same short distance from it...

I believe that this manifold would really shine under a forced induction situation. First, because it it is plenty strong to take being pressurized, and second, it can handle 20% more air flow under equal conditions because it was made for an engine with 20% more displacement.

07-26-2012, 11:56 AM	#1
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 5dr LE (deceased), 13 Soul Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,833	Manifold name looks cool, and certainly personalizes it. I'm thinking that anybody who is not in the know is going to call it Jooter. __________________

07-26-2012, 12:00 PM	#3
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	"Jooter" is COOL. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

07-26-2012, 04:22 PM	#4
Golddeenoh Takes corners too fast! View User's Garage Drives: Absolute Red 2009 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 830	looks like your "j" and "t" made a baby or you put the lower case "t" backwards :D __________________ mods:15''Drag DR21 w/Nitto NeoGen 205/50R15, Tanabe DF210 lowering springs 1.6/1.8, TRD Rear Sway Bar, Tanabe Front Sway Bar, Micro Image Short Throw Shift Kit (both in and under), 8.64lbs flywheel, F1 Stage 4 Clutch, AEM Cold Air Intake (Red), Megan Racing Header, DC Sports Axle Back Exhaust, Micro Image Crank Pulley, NST lite Alternator Pulley, ARP Manifold Stud Kit,Tanabe Front Strut Tower Brace, ScanGuage II, Micro Image Silicone Radiator Hose Kit (Red), NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob (round), 2009-2011 Toyota Yaris Liftback Foglight kit, NRG Grounding Kit (Red), Hella Horns(Red),CF Hood

07-26-2012, 08:10 PM	#10
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07-26-2012, 08:28 PM	#11
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07-26-2012, 07:05 PM	#7
CrankyOldMan 2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how! View User's Garage Drives: 09 Meteoric Metallic HB Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 2,333	Augh! He said serif!! I agree about the catchy logo idea though, and can appreciate the effort to use simple shapes for easier manual G-code.

07-26-2012, 07:49 PM	#9
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	Picked up all the pieces from the CNC machine shop today... Cranky... you can see the the areas on the inside of the outer runners that will be undercut with a hand file to the line scribed by the machine that matches the Yaris intake ports on the head. The solution was so simple. Next up is an installation clearance test of everything including test fitting the throttle body... ...and then it's off to the welder.

07-26-2012, 08:37 PM	#12
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	One step at a time...

07-26-2012, 10:53 PM	#13
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	What's sealing the adapter for the TB to the manifold?

07-27-2012, 12:02 AM	#14
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	A stock Corolla throttle body gasket seals the adaptor to the manifold... It's a thin stiff metal sheet with rubberized coating on both sides. All of the gaskets used are OEM. Those three black allen bolts holding the adaptor to the manifold are screwed into the original threaded Corolla throttle body mounting holes.

07-27-2012, 03:43 AM	#15
4/20 NEVER FORGET Drives: 2008 Yaris HB MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 100	I can't wait to see what this does on a dyno. So close!

07-27-2012, 07:27 PM	#16
malibuguy Obsessed with 1.5L Drives: '10 PW Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 908	Damn damn damn hurry up!!! ;) __________________ -Greg...the Exhaust Freak. -10 PW sedan 107whp/110wtq, full exhaust, suspension bits, TRD LSD -06 Highlander 3mzfe Limited AWD -82 Malibu, 1uzfe swap -97 Tercel coupe, 1nzfe/4.31 -96 Tercel coupe, Turbo 5efe, autoX -96 Tercel 4dr

07-27-2012, 07:45 PM	#17
Billiam View User's Garage Drives: '10 White Yaris 4D LB Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: USA Posts: 574	So is this thing going to be a "shower" or a "grower"? __________________ If you want to enjoy your car, stay off of the internet.

07-27-2012, 09:18 PM	#18
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,962	Far more likely to be a "shower". Remember that the Toyota engineers could model the plastic intake manifold in absolutely any shape, so I'm certain that what they came up with was the best for overall driveability. Now that all the parts are back home, I just took a cloth measuring tape to the runners of both manifolds and am suprised to discover that the runners are just slightly longer than the stock Yaris runners! Yaris runners, end to end: 19" Tooter runners, end to end: 20" Just by looking at both, Dang! I would have sworn that the Corolla's were a lot shorter! It was the larger diameter that only made them appear that way. This bodes well for low end performance, although I still believe that low end torque will suffer somewhat because larger diameter runners means slower air velocity at low rpms. Now how much low end loss is an open question which will be settled on the dyno. Here's a pic of the inside of the stock manifold... You can see the entrance to the first runner at the bottom which is at 90 degrees to the manifold's intake, and the plenum is quite large. In contrast, these runners are all pointing directly at the manifold's intake and are all the same short distance from it... I believe that this manifold would really shine under a forced induction situation. First, because it it is plenty strong to take being pressurized, and second, it can handle 20% more air flow under equal conditions because it was made for an engine with 20% more displacement. Last edited by tooter; 07-27-2012 at 09:40 PM.

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