Get ready for Gas increase!

[darthbauer]

Originally Posted by bobby

As a shareholder of Exxon-Mobil, I love love love this person's attitude!!

Chevron's the only gas that's gone in my tank.

[kou]

o and gas just went down at my pump. $1.63 for 93 octane.

[gid]

Originally Posted by kou

o and gas just went down at my pump. $1.63 for 93 octane.

that happen to be HESS ?

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by CrazedEpidemic

I don't mind if it goes up to $2/gallon. I think it should be taxed to $4/gallon to continue our path to a greener world and we should get rebates to offset the taxes so the money stays in America.

No joke, I'd love to see a nation wide $1-2 per gallon tax that would go towards building modern railways. Think bullet trains All the way up and down the east & west coasts. Miami to NY with a stop at every big city. Then San Diego to LA to the Bay area to Portland to Seattle.

And then eventually a south and north cross country bullet train to connect the west & east coasts.

I think we should copy the japanese on this. Not just do bullet trains, but also put lots of money into local loop lines and such to reduce so much of the wear & tear on local roads & highways. The amount of money saved in road construction & maintenance would nearly offset the initial construction costs...

And to think if we could build a network of trains like japan has, you'd never get shit from your boss for being late when in reality there was a wreck on the roads.... trains in japan almost never get in wrecks, and run on time... nearly to the second.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by kou

i buy at shell gas statons.its a good job they have nothing to do with exxon-mobil. the amount of time spent looking then digging, transporting, refining at a dollor and change it is pretty cheap considering all the taxes added in to that cost the petrol itself doesnt really cost that much. and its true that 3 grandes at star@#$!s is a tank full of gas.

Just because it's a "Shell" gas station doesn't mean that they always sell "Shell" gas.

[gid]

in JAPAN the buses turn off and on automatically when taken out of gear to save fuel when stopped . People also turn off their vehicles or are encouraged to shut down motors when stopped in traffic , etc..

[CrazedEpidemic]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Just because it's a "Shell" gas station doesn't mean that they always sell "Shell" gas.

How can you tell when its Shell gas?

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by gid

in JAPAN the buses turn off and on automatically when taken out of gear to save fuel when stopped . People also turn off their vehicles or are encouraged to shut down motors when stopped in traffic , etc..

I was surprised when I saw this as well. All the busses are manual transmission and it's interesting how they has to say over the loud speaker that they're looking and it's safe to all the riders, everytime they change lanes. Like you said, normal cars also often shut off their engines and at least lights at stops. It's amazing to see what humans are capable of if they try.

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

I think we should copy the japanese on this. Not just do bullet trains, but also put lots of money into local loop lines and such to reduce so much of the wear & tear on local roads & highways. The amount of money saved in road construction & maintenance would nearly offset the initial construction costs...

And to think if we could build a network of trains like japan has, you'd never get shit from your boss for being late when in reality there was a wreck on the roads.... trains in japan almost never get in wrecks, and run on time... nearly to the second.

A big reason the Japanese are so successful is that they are willing to copy. They copied London on their subway system and tried to improve it a little. The biggest thing I noticed in these subways, is they have a circle of tracks around the centre, not a bunch of straight lines like we do here in Toronto, which lead to nowhere and make the system useless to anyone who isn't traveling along one track.

Did you know that if your train is a couple of minutes late they will give you a note to give your Boss so you can prove it wasn't your fault you're late? I think the trains are on average 7 seconds late. That's the average for the entire country. The company you work for also pays for your transit pass and you can actually use the train systems to go all over the place. This is why the next generation in Japan is not interested in cars... you don't need one! Car sales have been declining for the last 5 years and are at their lowest in over 30 years Japan. They even have a word for this trend - kuruma banare - which means demotorization. Imagine not having to spend $5000 a year on transportation, not because you can't afford it, but because it takes longer to travel by car than by mass transit. Most people, from the lowest paid to the highest paid executives take mass transit to work for this very reason.

For me in Toronto the story is quite different.

Driving - 50 minute commute, 4 dollars in gas come and go as I please.

Mass Transit - 2 hours if I get all 3 buses perfectly, if one is late you can quickly add 30 minutes to that, over $19 in tickets and you can't even break even on a bus pass unless you use both ways on a 5 day work week and for 2 other trips.

Anyone think that maybe the people who benefit from our economy most don't want us to have a viable mass transit system?

[SuperFunBall]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfpcK...eature=related

[nsmitchell]

I'm totaly ready! Yaris and Fit! Fuel sippers the both!

BTW - My 09 Fit Sport is getting like 42MPG on the HWY routinely using only cruise at 65MPH. Totally Kick Ass!

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by CrazedEpidemic

I don't mind if it goes up to $2/gallon. I think it should be taxed to $4/gallon to continue our path to a greener world and we should get rebates to offset the taxes so the money stays in America.

Sustained $4 gas will result in another great depression. That problem isn't that we don't have enough gas...its that the government is handcuffing business to get the gas.

Government is the problem!

[gid]

yup , vicious cycle , ain't it ? And to think they want to raise gas ( fuel ) taxes at all levels of government . Just don't get it do they ? Never have , never will .

[blktiger60]

Originally Posted by Phaeton

It's never been below $1.78 where I live.
WA has alot of tax on gasoline though.

I saw $1.40 here in Spokane

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

The media controls the world.....turn off your TV's.

No time to watch TV (except for Heroes), too busy playing World of Warcraft. . .

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

Did you know that if your train is a couple of minutes late they will give you a note to give your Boss so you can prove it wasn't your fault you're late? I think the trains are on average 7 seconds late. That's the average for the entire country. The company you work for also pays for your transit pass and you can actually use the train systems to go all over the place. This is why the next generation in Japan is not interested in cars... you don't need one! Car sales have been declining for the last 5 years and are at their lowest in over 30 years Japan. They even have a word for this trend - kuruma banare - which means demotorization. Imagine not having to spend $5000 a year on transportation, not because you can't afford it, but because it takes longer to travel by car than by mass transit. Most people, from the lowest paid to the highest paid executives take mass transit to work for this very reason.

yes i did know that... and this is why...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...QOCotCwDg&cd=1


thats my old apartment.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

I was surprised when I saw this as well. All the busses are manual transmission and it's interesting how they has to say over the loud speaker that they're looking and it's safe to all the riders, everytime they change lanes. Like you said, normal cars also often shut off their engines and at least lights at stops. It's amazing to see what humans are capable of if they try.

I don't remember ever the bus drivers saying they were changing lanes... course... I only rode the bus about 3 times... and not sure how much lane changing happened. Trains will get you to almost anywhere a bus will in japan.

I think the North American perception of japan is highly skewed... just because a few vehicles have some crazy technologies, or a specific area has crazy policies/proceedures for the drivers doesn't mean that is the norm.

[gid]

seen in newspaper that experts are predicting $150 or > in 2011 or sooner . The oil companies are spending less on exploration for oil due to low oil prices . This after making record profits , such . Other reason is that many oil endowed countries are holding onto most of their oil for own use . Thus less exports . So , PEOPLE GET READY !!!

[ZING]

Bring it. Been trying to convince my family to start buying economical cars since I got my car, but no. In a country where a car matters more than education, wits, and personality people buy the most expensive car they can afford. Time to led the yaris revolution.