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Chupacabra · 12-17-2008, 09:52 AM

I am not going to say that I am right or wrong but I can't see any reason WHY somebody would want to run the 0-20. I mean, clearly the 5-30 is the best all around choice and I could even see 5-20 for some I guess but I am confused as to why somebody wants to run the 0wt.

1stToyota · 12-17-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

I am not going to say that I am right or wrong but I can't see any reason WHY somebody would want to run the 0-20. I mean, clearly the 5-30 is the best all around choice and I could even see 5-20 for some I guess but I am confused as to why somebody wants to run the 0wt.

I can see it, if they live in Fargo or the Yukon, and want to run it when the climate starts getting cooler, can't see it tho' for a guy that lives in an area that never sees a white winter and needs a TSB in hand that can't ever seem to backup his own 0w-20 for a Yaris statements.

1stToyota · 12-17-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

I am not going to say that I am right or wrong but I can't see any reason WHY somebody would want to run the 0-20. I mean, clearly the 5-30 is the best all around choice and I could even see 5-20 for some I guess but I am confused as to why somebody wants to run the 0wt.

I'm thinking about using Pennzoil Platinum, and for them 5w-30 seems to be the best choice.

0w-20 and 5w-20 grades only get a ACEA A1 rating, but the 5w-30 gets a ACEA A5/B5 rating that matches the Amsoil HP 5w-30 that I'm now using, but with the PP I'll feel a little better with the API approval on the front label.

Shroomster · 12-17-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stToyota

I'm thinking about using Pennzoil Platinum, and for them 5w-30 seems to be the best choice.

0w-20 and 5w-20 grades only get a ACEA A1 rating, but the 5w-30 gets a ACEA A5/B5 rating that matches the Amsoil HP 5w-30 that I'm now using, but with the PP I'll feel a little better with the API approval on the front label.

my god the prices for synthetic oil are ridiculous anymore....

I went and priced some at ADAP (wal-mart was out of stock of all 5w20)
and for castrol and Mobil synthetic they were $7.69 + 6.5% tax and Pennzoil platinum was 8.09 + 6.5% tax craziness.....

TheSilkySmooth · 12-17-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stToyota

I'm thinking about using Pennzoil Platinum, and for them 5w-30 seems to be the best choice.

0w-20 and 5w-20 grades only get a ACEA A1 rating, but the 5w-30 gets a ACEA A5/B5 rating that matches the Amsoil HP 5w-30 that I'm now using, but with the PP I'll feel a little better with the API approval on the front label.

When we ran the PP in the suzuki, it seemed OK for the first 100miles then it got that old "GUMMY" VI package feeling that YB-P has. Not a true syn. Protection may be OK, but actual running of the motor is Not good enough for me. Please try the PP and let us know though. GID seems happy with it and he seems to be a logical, practical guy.

Just my dos centavos

1stToyota · 12-17-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

When we ran the PP in the suzuki, it seemed OK for the first 100miles then it got that old "GUMMY" VI package feeling that YB-P has. Not a true syn. Protection may be OK, but actual running of the motor is Not good enough for me. Please try the PP and let us know though. GID seems happy with it and he seems to be a logical, practical guy.

Just my dos centavos

This AMSOIL HP is too good to drain out, so I won't actually use PP until I hit 15K.

After researching LubroMoly I noticed the 5w-30 had good specs, but was a syn blend and not API approved, so I bought a case of LUCAS thinking it was API approved. Not using it in my Yaris, but already sold 6 of them to a guy in a Chevy SS Impala. After too much thinking on what'd be best overall, made up my mind on Pennzoil Platinum for it's good UOAs, API appoval, ACEA A5/B5 ...I know the AMSOIL HP probably wasn't API approved because it exceeded the API rating, but for safety's sake I'll make the switch to PP. Number's wise, looks good, but I'll let you know. After running the AMSOIL for 5K, I'll see if I notice anything strange happening with the PP.

Chupacabra · 12-17-2008, 10:24 AM

Right but SilverGlow is in SoCal.

1stToyota · 12-17-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

Right but SilverGlow is in SoCal.

And he's never seen a snow flake or an ice storm in southern Ca, but he insists on using 0w-20??

nsmitchell · 12-17-2008, 10:58 AM

I am using Mobil-1 AFE (green cap) 0W-20 in my 2009 Honda Fit. The cap calls for 5W-20 so that's fine.

I am using AFE (green cap) 0W-30 in my 2007 Yaris. I don't think I'm going to go to 0W-20 eventhough the TSB says you can. The TSB is a little ambiguous.

I always use a Napa Gold (Wix) oil filter. They are awesome and not overpriced.

gid · 12-17-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nsmitchell

I am using Mobil-1 AFE (green cap) 0W-20 in my 2009 Honda Fit. The cap calls for 5W-20 so that's fine.

I am using AFE (green cap) 0W-30 in my 2007 Yaris. I don't think I'm going to go to 0W-20 eventhough the TSB says you can. The TSB is a little ambiguous.

I always use a Napa Gold (Wix) oil filter. They are awesome and not overpriced.

that the T.S.B. from TOYOTA had post . The 0w-20 is for other vehicles such as CAMRY , etc..

fj40dave · 12-17-2008, 12:08 PM

Well....if anyone wants AMSOIL at dealer cost.....just PM me :-)
I use it.....and I'm not going to get into a discussion/defending position on my preferance...it's mine, not yours.

$6.95/qt
$27.15/gal
+ shipping (usually around 9-10 bucks)

nsmitchell · 12-17-2008, 01:53 PM

No way am I putting PP in my oil! Urine has poor lubricating properties.

gid · 12-17-2008, 04:45 PM

had tried the 5w-20 for the liftback and could hear a whining noise at highway speeds so drained the 5w-20 ( PENNZOIL Platinum ) and installed the 5w-30 using SHELL full synthetic . Now , no noise . Timing chain , other ?

Chupacabra · 12-17-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gid

had tried the 5w-20 for the liftback and could hear a whining noise at highway speeds so drained the 5w-20 ( PENNZOIL Platinum ) and installed the 5w-30 using SHELL full synthetic . Now no noise . Timing chain , other ?

So what was your reasoning for putting 5-20 in the car?

gid · 12-17-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

So what was your reasoning for putting 5-20 in the car?

possible increase in mileage , and few other reasons . Like yeh said , trial and error .

Chupacabra · 12-18-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gid

possible increase in mileage , and few other reasons . Like yeh said , trial and error .

increase in mileage = NOT going to happen
few other reasons = NON existent
Better cold flow = NO difference unless you live in an ICEBOX.

gid · 12-18-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

increase in mileage = NOT going to happen
few other reasons = NON existent
Better cold flow = NO difference unless you live in an ICEBOX.

NOT going to happen .

linny · 12-18-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupacabra

increase in mileage = NOT going to happen
few other reasons = NON existent
Better cold flow = NO difference unless you live in an ICEBOX.

I am with gid on this.
Those that deal out absolutes often are wrong.

12-17-2008, 10:58 AM	#9
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	I am using Mobil-1 AFE (green cap) 0W-20 in my 2009 Honda Fit. The cap calls for 5W-20 so that's fine. I am using AFE (green cap) 0W-30 in my 2007 Yaris. I don't think I'm going to go to 0W-20 eventhough the TSB says you can. The TSB is a little ambiguous. I always use a Napa Gold (Wix) oil filter. They are awesome and not overpriced. __________________ Other car is a 2005 Mustang Convertible 4.0L V6 Manual - Legend Lime Get YarAss in gear! RIP - Casey Tatum

12-17-2008, 01:53 PM	#12
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	No way am I putting PP in my oil! Urine has poor lubricating properties. __________________ Other car is a 2005 Mustang Convertible 4.0L V6 Manual - Legend Lime Get YarAss in gear! RIP - Casey Tatum

12-17-2008, 04:45 PM	#13
gid Drives: '08 Yaris sedan , '08 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northeast Posts: 643	had tried the 5w-20 for the liftback and could hear a whining noise at highway speeds so drained the 5w-20 ( PENNZOIL Platinum ) and installed the 5w-30 using SHELL full synthetic . Now , no noise . Timing chain , other ? Last edited by gid; 12-17-2008 at 08:10 PM.

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12-17-2008, 09:52 AM	#1
Chupacabra Banned Drives: 2009 Yaris liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT Posts: 350	I am not going to say that I am right or wrong but I can't see any reason WHY somebody would want to run the 0-20. I mean, clearly the 5-30 is the best all around choice and I could even see 5-20 for some I guess but I am confused as to why somebody wants to run the 0wt.

12-17-2008, 10:24 AM	#7
Chupacabra Banned Drives: 2009 Yaris liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT Posts: 350	Right but SilverGlow is in SoCal.

12-17-2008, 12:08 PM	#11
fj40dave Drives: '08 HB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Allyn Posts: 71	Well....if anyone wants AMSOIL at dealer cost.....just PM me :-) I use it.....and I'm not going to get into a discussion/defending position on my preferance...it's mine, not yours. $6.95/qt $27.15/gal + shipping (usually around 9-10 bucks)