Beefing Up my Yaris - Page 4 - Toyota Yaris Forums

cdydjded · 05-21-2010, 03:10 PM

Well obviously for a Yaris for example you not going to use a I/C with 4" inlets & outlets with a core size of 30" wide by 16" high by 4" thick. A proper size I/C is key to making it a necessary addition to a turbo kit. Again there are no significant drawbacks to a properly installed I/C with the correct size I/C & piping.

cali yaris · 05-21-2010, 03:23 PM

my i/c is pretty small and we are getting beautifully cold intake temps under high boost.

advocate · 05-23-2010, 11:33 PM

I'm not getting why the xA kit with a modified downpipe is such a horrifying idea

If you think you can source a kit cheaper from independent sources that's understandable...

If you're trying to avoid management like the devil, then I understand as well.

But if you accept the fact that you need a tune, HKS is a proven company...

RacerFreakXXX · 05-24-2010, 12:06 AM

HKS is good, but bot worth the extra $$$$... that HKS kit is mostly turbo, I'll take a Garrett turbo for half the cost. My next mods are diff, clutch, and flywheel on the car... then turbo. By that time Micro Image's kit will be ready, that or I've emailed Zage about buying a turbo kit w/o the turbo. If they say they will, I may buy the kit. Seeing as all I would need to do is buy, besides a Garett turbo, is a stock oil pan, tap it, then get an EMS, and a tune. I'd rather go with Micro Image's kit, figure less than 1k for manifold and down pipe, less than 1k for turbo and that gives me about 1-2k for the rest.

RacerFreakXXX · 05-24-2010, 10:06 PM

I'm really considering buying the zage turbo kit w/o the turbo:

"Normally we don't recommend doing so because every part of our turbo kit is designed to fit each other, so if you do not buy the turbo in the kit then you will have to do modification yourself, if you are installing them on 1NZ-FE engine.

However, if you dont' mind doing the modification yourself our Yaris turbo kit would be USD$1000. "

should I do it?

cdydjded · 05-24-2010, 10:18 PM

Id suggest buy the kit as is. The worst that can happen is that the turbo has issues, nothing a rebuild cannot handle. You could always replace the insides of the Zage kit with Garrett internals. If you buy it without the turbo you have no choice but to use a GT25. Also dont even bother using their pan. If you want to save some $$ tell them to keep the oil pan. It does not work.

RacerFreakXXX · 05-24-2010, 10:35 PM

yea I was thinking about not getting the pan too, it'll knock off $100. I only want to use a GT25. It's a daily driver and having 120whp would be amazing at this point, I can't imagine 140-150whp. I trust Garrett more though, so that will be my route if I get the Zage.

Tatsh · 05-24-2010, 11:04 PM

How much is the zage kit with everything?

Parmas · 05-25-2010, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdydjded

Also dont even bother using their pan. If you want to save some $$ tell them to keep the oil pan. It does not work.

I noticed that many "kits" of the yaris include a different oil pan which looks about the same size (no increase in oil capacity) although I am not sure its the same material as stock

Just curious about it ...

RacerFreakXXX · 05-25-2010, 09:03 AM

The kit costs about $1,800 shipped... but i'd rather spend $900 on a turbo $900 on a kit w/o turbo and pan and buy the res and still be under $3k. The only oil pan that looks decent is the Greddy and it's probably not worth the money.

cdydjded · 05-25-2010, 10:24 AM

The Zage kit pan is cast aluminum with cooling fins. It does not hold any more oil than the factory stamped steel pan. The pan fits but the oil drain position is completely wrong. It located towards the front of the car & does not drain correctly.

advocate · 05-27-2010, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdydjded

The Zage kit pan is cast aluminum with cooling fins. It does not hold any more oil than the factory stamped steel pan. The pan fits but the oil drain position is completely wrong. It located towards the front of the car & does not drain correctly.

thank god for product research

cdydjded · 05-27-2010, 09:11 PM

Actually its not research, I have the pan on my car. Took a chance & it did not result in anything good.

Tamago · 05-28-2010, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdydjded

The Zage kit pan is cast aluminum with cooling fins. It does not hold any more oil than the factory stamped steel pan. The pan fits but the oil drain position is completely wrong. It located towards the front of the car & does not drain correctly.

why not jack the rear of the car up?

logic > product research

Focus_Sh1ft · 05-30-2010, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

I'm really considering buying the zage turbo kit w/o the turbo

This seems like a pretty decent option... Although fuel management still needs to be addressed unfortunately.

Has anyone on YW purchased the entire kit yet and got it working? And if so, was there any fitment issues with piping/etc? (besides the crummy oil pan that is)

BTW, if you go zage with a GT2554 and it works well, I'm totally going to copy you

RacerFreakXXX · 05-30-2010, 07:36 PM

I've read through a lot of material and actually found that that does work... however I would just weld a bung onto the stock oil pan and then for EMS, you are basically on your own. Greddy seems to be the best, from what I can see for EMS. Your other options are a stand alone EMS. With that you would have to completely remap and fine tune everything. I don't know If I'm even considering turbo with the FT-86 around the corner. It seems to have too much press to be put back any longer and by the time it comes out I will be turbo. Turbo or putting the money towards a 2nd car, the second car option seems to really make more sense. As much as I would like more power, it's a big decision, even If I am only looking at 3k with a tune.

Yoda · 05-30-2010, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Focus_Sh1ft

This seems like a pretty decent option... Although fuel management still needs to be addressed unfortunately.

Has anyone on YW purchased the entire kit yet and got it working? And if so, was there any fitment issues with piping/etc? (besides the crummy oil pan that is)

BTW, if you go zage with a GT2554 and it works well, I'm totally going to copy you

I have the kit in my closet for about a month now just dont have the time to put it all on. Wife had a baby and i am working double shifts. Trying to locate a camera to take some pics of it for peterpoop

Focus_Sh1ft · 05-31-2010, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

Turbo or putting the money towards a 2nd car, the second car option seems to really make more sense.

If you're in need of a second car then I couldn't agree more with dropping the turbo idea and grabbing an FT-86 instead

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda

I have the kit in my closet for about a month now just dont have the time to put it all on. Wife had a baby and i am working double shifts. Trying to locate a camera to take some pics of it for peterpoop

Not to go off topic but: I could have sworn you were building your own kit? Either way, I'm really eager to see you get this kit on ...

What piggyback are you using?

05-24-2010, 12:06 AM	#58
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	HKS is good, but bot worth the extra $$$$... that HKS kit is mostly turbo, I'll take a Garrett turbo for half the cost. My next mods are diff, clutch, and flywheel on the car... then turbo. By that time Micro Image's kit will be ready, that or I've emailed Zage about buying a turbo kit w/o the turbo. If they say they will, I may buy the kit. Seeing as all I would need to do is buy, besides a Garett turbo, is a stock oil pan, tap it, then get an EMS, and a tune. I'd rather go with Micro Image's kit, figure less than 1k for manifold and down pipe, less than 1k for turbo and that gives me about 1-2k for the rest. __________________ 1990 Mazda Miata... I miss my Yaris

05-24-2010, 10:06 PM	#59
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	I'm really considering buying the zage turbo kit w/o the turbo: "Normally we don't recommend doing so because every part of our turbo kit is designed to fit each other, so if you do not buy the turbo in the kit then you will have to do modification yourself, if you are installing them on 1NZ-FE engine. However, if you dont' mind doing the modification yourself our Yaris turbo kit would be USD$1000. " should I do it? __________________ 1990 Mazda Miata... I miss my Yaris

05-24-2010, 10:35 PM	#61
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	yea I was thinking about not getting the pan too, it'll knock off $100. I only want to use a GT25. It's a daily driver and having 120whp would be amazing at this point, I can't imagine 140-150whp. I trust Garrett more though, so that will be my route if I get the Zage. __________________ 1990 Mazda Miata... I miss my Yaris

05-24-2010, 11:04 PM	#62
Tatsh Drives: 2009 Toyota Yaris LE Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Richmond, BC Posts: 84	How much is the zage kit with everything? __________________ ~ Currently Done: Apex'i N1 Evolution Axle-Back, Tanabe DF210, Drag DR-31 (Rally Bronze) Wrapped in BF Goodrich g-force Sports, held together with Red Works RS Lug Nuts.

05-25-2010, 09:03 AM	#64
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	The kit costs about $1,800 shipped... but i'd rather spend $900 on a turbo $900 on a kit w/o turbo and pan and buy the res and still be under $3k. The only oil pan that looks decent is the Greddy and it's probably not worth the money. __________________ 1990 Mazda Miata... I miss my Yaris

05-21-2010, 03:10 PM	#55
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	Well obviously for a Yaris for example you not going to use a I/C with 4" inlets & outlets with a core size of 30" wide by 16" high by 4" thick. A proper size I/C is key to making it a necessary addition to a turbo kit. Again there are no significant drawbacks to a properly installed I/C with the correct size I/C & piping.

05-21-2010, 03:23 PM	#56
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	my i/c is pretty small and we are getting beautifully cold intake temps under high boost.

05-23-2010, 11:33 PM	#57
advocate Drives: car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: location Posts: 1,033	I'm not getting why the xA kit with a modified downpipe is such a horrifying idea If you think you can source a kit cheaper from independent sources that's understandable... If you're trying to avoid management like the devil, then I understand as well. But if you accept the fact that you need a tune, HKS is a proven company...

05-24-2010, 10:18 PM	#60
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	Id suggest buy the kit as is. The worst that can happen is that the turbo has issues, nothing a rebuild cannot handle. You could always replace the insides of the Zage kit with Garrett internals. If you buy it without the turbo you have no choice but to use a GT25. Also dont even bother using their pan. If you want to save some $$ tell them to keep the oil pan. It does not work.

05-25-2010, 10:24 AM	#65
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	The Zage kit pan is cast aluminum with cooling fins. It does not hold any more oil than the factory stamped steel pan. The pan fits but the oil drain position is completely wrong. It located towards the front of the car & does not drain correctly.

05-27-2010, 09:11 PM	#67
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	Actually its not research, I have the pan on my car. Took a chance & it did not result in anything good.

05-30-2010, 07:36 PM	#70
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	I've read through a lot of material and actually found that that does work... however I would just weld a bung onto the stock oil pan and then for EMS, you are basically on your own. Greddy seems to be the best, from what I can see for EMS. Your other options are a stand alone EMS. With that you would have to completely remap and fine tune everything. I don't know If I'm even considering turbo with the FT-86 around the corner. It seems to have too much press to be put back any longer and by the time it comes out I will be turbo. Turbo or putting the money towards a 2nd car, the second car option seems to really make more sense. As much as I would like more power, it's a big decision, even If I am only looking at 3k with a tune. __________________ 1990 Mazda Miata... I miss my Yaris

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