2011 SCCA Runoffs

[ilikerice]

epic.. congrats and a great run. my idol

[Jason@SportsCar]

Got my video together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm4NJaZ3CHo

[ilikerice]

So you say you lost some top end with this new engine. Do you think it was better to lose the top end and gain speed out the corners?
Or, do you plan on trying to get your top end back, possibly sacraficing the quick acceleration?

looked really good out there.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by ilikerice

So you say you lost some top end with this new engine. Do you think it was better to lose the top end and gain speed out the corners?
Or, do you plan on trying to get your top end back, possibly sacraficing the quick acceleration?

looked really good out there.

Watching video from last year we really thought the place we were loosing was corner exit, everyone would pull me on corner exit and I would catch up at the end of the strait. We decided to go for Tq, so we could be there on corner exit and hopefully draft by on the strait. It did not work out like that. The car was great on exit, I could get a run, but half way down the strait it would just poop out.

We are going to look at the head again - I still have the modded one. We will either use the modded head (port matched, decked, valve job, stronger springs) with a stock cam, or take another shot at cams - it just depends on how deep the development budget is for 2012.

We had a program already set to go for next year, and engine work was in the budget, but after the Runoffs some changes were made... Now we have to do the math and figure out how much mad money is left over for the engine program.

[ilikerice]

Now do you think that the rain messed up with your original settings and not for radials? I mean, do you think you probably have a chance to fight for 1st against mosley's crx if the rain didnt throw you off.. Or did it throw everyone off basically? Some ran slicks other ran radials.
Also u mentioned that you were not tuned for radials to begin with and it sounded like it was a last minute adjustment. I'd like to see the modded top in with the torque you have now.

I ask these cuz I am getting skeptical with the yaris performance. Oct. 21 is my first track event. kinda like a PDX thru SCCA, but its run by "Hooked On Driving" instead. So its just some seat time to get some experience and hopefully one day to get my license and do what you do eventually. I enjoy watching your progress

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by ilikerice

Now do you think that the rain messed up with your original settings and not for radials? I mean, do you think you probably have a chance to fight for 1st against mosley's crx if the rain didnt throw you off.. Or did it throw everyone off basically? Some ran slicks other ran radials.
Also u mentioned that you were not tuned for radials to begin with and it sounded like it was a last minute adjustment. I'd like to see the modded top in with the torque you have now.

I ask these cuz I am getting skeptical with the yaris performance. Oct. 21 is my first track event. kinda like a PDX thru SCCA, but its run by "Hooked On Driving" instead. So its just some seat time to get some experience and hopefully one day to get my license and do what you do eventually. I enjoy watching your progress

The rain helped us, we had nothing for the front guys in the dry - the wet helped negate the lack of strait line speed, you could make up a lot by just pushing a little harder than the next guy in those wet turns. A race track in the wet is a lot like an autox, every turn is different pretty much every time you get to it. 18 years of autocrossing payed off.

We need a lot more to get out front, more than the car likely has in it. I honestly doubt the Yaris would ever be a championship winning car, we never thought it would do this good. Even if you got the power and handling equal to the other cars, the really high roof is going to hold it back for top speed.

Its fun, its unusual, its reliable... Buts its not likely the ticket to a championship. But you never know, over the long haul rules can change and you never know what will become the hot car.

[ArmyYaris]

Awesome job way to represent the yaris community !

[Jason@SportsCar]

The SpeedcastTV broadcast have now been broken out into individual races in HD: http://speedcasttv.com/#/races/283

[ilikerice]

sweet.. I will be watching this again later today.

BTW, My first track day (novice) will be this weekend at Roebling Road Raceway. Tips and suggestions what to bring would be appriciated..

Sofar:
jack and ramp to swap tires during lunch break since its mostly right turns.
Tire temp gauge
Tire pressure gauge

I do not plan on doing alighnment adjustment there. I am not going all out. I am just trying to get some seat time in. I will be with an instructor for the first half definitly. If he likes what I'm doing, I will be able to run solo for the afternoon.

[03Z33]

Originally Posted by ilikerice

sweet.. I will be watching this again later today.

BTW, My first track day (novice) will be this weekend at Roebling Road Raceway. Tips and suggestions what to bring would be appriciated..

Sofar:
jack and ramp to swap tires during lunch break since its mostly right turns.
Tire temp gauge
Tire pressure gauge

I do not plan on doing alighnment adjustment there. I am not going all out. I am just trying to get some seat time in. I will be with an instructor for the first half definitly. If he likes what I'm doing, I will be able to run solo for the afternoon.

I like this checklist:

http://www.microimageonline.com/foru...-DAY-CHECKLIST

Have fun!

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by ilikerice

sweet.. I will be watching this again later today.

BTW, My first track day (novice) will be this weekend at Roebling Road Raceway. Tips and suggestions what to bring would be appriciated..

Sofar:
jack and ramp to swap tires during lunch break since its mostly right turns.
Tire temp gauge
Tire pressure gauge

I do not plan on doing alighnment adjustment there. I am not going all out. I am just trying to get some seat time in. I will be with an instructor for the first half definitly. If he likes what I'm doing, I will be able to run solo for the afternoon.

1. Have fun.
2. If you have not done it before, work up to it. Its not a race, just run your pace.
3. Use the cool down lap as a cool down lap, run at a speed that allows you to use the brakes as little as possible, and DO NOT set the parking brake after a track session.

As for tracking the Yaris, it is a short wheelbase car, if things get out of shape it happens quickly. Use slow hands and steady inputs when turning in, too quick and you will upset the car - but if it starts to go, quick hands to save it.

[ilikerice]

that is a good checklist.. thanks

[racerb]

I've raced at Roebling for years, if you can add a little more negative camber to the left front, do so and dial in about an 1/8" toe out up front. That track if tough on left fronts, especially on front drive cars. What tires will you be running? Tire pressures can be a little tricky there also, couple pounds here and there makes a huge difference. My Celica is just a bit heavier, but with Kumho V700s on it, I was running 34-36 psi up front and between 30-32 in the rear. On my old Nissan Pulsar which only weighed about 1900 lbs. and was also front drive, I would run about the same front pressures but only 18-20 psi rear.

Have fun and just go into it with an open mind and if you have an instructor, listen close and try to get all the knowledge of car control and apex/turn-in. Roebling is a much more technical track than people think, so be very carefull exiting turn 8 onto the front straight, if you drop wheels off on exit, just keep it going straight and ease back on coarse.

Good Luck and have fun!!
racerb

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by racerb

. My Celica is just a bit heavier, but with Kumho V700s on it, I was running 34-36 psi up front and between 30-32 in the rear. On my old Nissan Pulsar which only weighed about 1900 lbs. and was also front drive, I would run about the same front pressures but only 18-20 psi rear.


racerb

I know some people like to drop the rear pressure to get rotation... But that is not the direction I would go. It makes for unpredictable handling, as the sidewalls wallow, and it kills the outside edge of the tire. If you want to free up the back of the car raise the pressure - it makes the breakaway much more predictable, preserves the edge of the tire, and effectively increases rear spring rate which helps keep weight on the front tires.

In the B-Spec Yaris we are running 36psi cold (Goodyear Eagle RS DOT R race tires) all the way around, we want a hot pressure around 42psi in the front. Alignment is -2.5 camber in the front, with a 1/16" toe out, and the factory alignment in the rear (I think it is about -1 with about 1/8" toe in). The car is very easy to drive this way.

On our Spec-V that weighs 3100lbs and has no camber adjustment, we end up 40psi cold front, and 60psi rear to get the balance we want. We might have gone higher in the rear, but our gauge maxed out at 60psi.

Rice, keep in mind that in Solo you are typically setting to a hot pressure, and bleeding down between runs, on the track you want to hit that same hot pressure, so you have to start lower to allow for tire/temp growth.

[ilikerice]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

Rice, keep in mind that in Solo you are typically setting to a hot pressure, and bleeding down between runs, on the track you want to hit that same hot pressure, so you have to start lower to allow for tire/temp growth.

hmm.. interesting, I didnt think about that.. thanks for the tip

[racerb]

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

I know some people like to drop the rear pressure to get rotation... But that is not the direction I would go. It makes for unpredictable handling, as the sidewalls wallow, and it kills the outside edge of the tire. If you want to free up the back of the car raise the pressure - it makes the breakaway much more predictable, preserves the edge of the tire, and effectively increases rear spring rate which helps keep weight on the front tires.

In the B-Spec Yaris we are running 36psi cold (Goodyear Eagle RS DOT R race tires) all the way around, we want a hot pressure around 42psi in the front. Alignment is -2.5 camber in the front, with a 1/16" toe out, and the factory alignment in the rear (I think it is about -1 with about 1/8" toe in). The car is very easy to drive this way.

On our Spec-V that weighs 3100lbs and has no camber adjustment, we end up 40psi cold front, and 60psi rear to get the balance we want. We might have gone higher in the rear, but our gauge maxed out at 60psi.

Rice, keep in mind that in Solo you are typically setting to a hot pressure, and bleeding down between runs, on the track you want to hit that same hot pressure, so you have to start lower to allow for tire/temp growth.

Jason is on the money about pressures for a car with stock suspension, my Showroom Stock CRX for example, was usually set at 36-38 cold front and 34-36 cold rear. On most East Coast road courses, our turns and transitions aren't as tight as many in the West, so we usually only gain about 4 psi during a track session. The reason I quoted my Pulsar pressures so low, was that this car ran no front swaybar, inverted Cerrara shocks at full rebound at the rear with higher spring rates and a 3/4" rear swaybar. Without the lower tire pressures, this car would oversteer like a rear drive car all the time, not just when you wanted it to.

He also mentioned the short wheelbase, my ITC Civic 1200 had roughly an 86" wheelbase, making it spin like a top if you ever over drove it into a turn. Believe me you learned very quickly easy throttle control and using the front tires to pull you out of trouble. If you get comfortable enough later on in driving on track with this car, left foot braking can help lower lap times, as I use this technic to make the car rotate and still be able give throttle imput for stability.

Once again good luck and just have fun, it's the name of the game when playing with cars!

racerb

[ilikerice]

Sorry Jason for the thread hijack..

great tips.. I will try to get an alighnment done thursday before the event. I will be runnig Hankook RS-3's... they say to rotate your front tires during lunch because of the wear you will get on the front left. I normally try to keep front psi at around 38-40 and rear around 32-34 in autocross, but ofcourse this is a different ball game. I will probably take your suggestion on tire pressure and just monitor the temps and pressure in between heats.

This is trickly a learning and enjoying the track day for me.. I have no ambitions to out corner anyone.. I just wanna see how to dial the yaris for hopefully more events like this in the future

[Jason@SportsCar]

It pays to look good... The Runoffs were weeks ago, and we just picked up another award.

http://www.scca.com/news/index.cfm?cid=50875

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...8349838&type=1

TOPEKA, Kan. (October 24, 2011) – Twenty-one drivers were paid contingency money for the Black Magic Shine contingency program at last month’s SCCA National Championship Runoffs.


Selected by a panel of judges, the winning cars were scored based on appearance and “shine” over the week-long event. Top contenders were chosen based on category, where cars were observed on the grid and in the paddock throughout the week.

Three places were selected in each of the Club Racing categories, according to the program requirements that included a display of the Black Magic sticker on the car. Each category winner received $400, with second place earning $250 and a $100 prize for third place.

The top finishers in each category are:

Production: 1. Jason Isley, Toyota Yaris, HP; 2. Jon Brakke, Mazda Miata, EP; 3. Charlie Campbell, Mazda Miata, FP
Super Touring: 1. Joe Koenig, BMW M3, STO; 2. Eric Heinrich, BMW M3, STU; 3. David Pintaric, Dodge Viper ACRX, STO
GT: 1. Mark Boden, Porsche GT3 Cup, GT2; 2. Jeff Dernehl, Mazda RX-7, GT-3; 3. Kent Prather, Mazda Miata, GTL
Touring/American Sedan: 1. Andy Wolverton, Pontiac Solstice GXP, T2; 2. Andy McDermid, Ford Mustang, AS; 3. Chris Puskar, Honda S2000, T3
Showroom Stock/Spec Miata: 1. Toby Grahovec, BMW Z4, SSB; 2. Luke Wilwert, Honda Civic Si, SSB; 3. Tom Brown, Mazda Miata, SM
Formula: 1. Glen Cooper, RFR F1000, FB; 2. Charlie Schlismann, KBS MK VII, F5; 3. Dennis Marklein, Formula Enterprises, FE
Sports Racing: 1. Corey Fergus, Carbir CS2, S2; 2. Steve Forrer, Ralt RT-41, CSR; 3. Brian Schofield, Spec Racer Ford, SRF.

A gallery of the prize-winning cars are available on the SCCA Facebook page at facebook.com/sccaofficial, or by direct link here.

Black Magic, the Preferred Automotive Detailing Product of the SCCA, offered a similar contingency for Solo competitors at this year’s Tire Rack Solo National Championships.

More information on any of the SCCA programs are available at www.scca.com.

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