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Old 06-20-2007, 03:45 PM   #55
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I believe the 20v 4AGE was in JPN only...so good luck in the junkyard, you can buy them online...but I don't know about the tranny, mounts, ecu...etc
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:47 PM   #56
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Engine Swap?

Hey everyone. I was just curious, does anyone know If there is engine swap available for the Yaris yet. I refuse to believe that there isn't We've gotta be able to get the Celica GT-S motor in there some how. Turbo can't be the only way to go. Even building this motor up would be kind of useless, I think. The Yaris is light as hell, someone has to have done a motor swap already. The Yaris weighs about as much as the old school Civic hatchback (90-93). The Yaris is a great platform to start with I think. You figure Honda has the EG Hatchbacks weighing about 2200lbs , and Honda guys are putting the 1.8 GSR motor in there, with about 170hp. We have our Yaris and the 1.8 GT-S motor with 180hp, this would be a nice equivalent to what the honda guys have. Shit even the fit has a swap! Any info you guys have would be greatly appreciated. Smartasses don't respond thanks. Peace
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:45 PM   #57
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yes, the celica motor fits u probably have to modify the firewall, but it does fit.... The only problem is that street image did a yaris with the swap. but they dont have any information on their website.
Yea the fit's engine bay is big as heLL. U can dump a k24 in that bit**
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:54 PM   #58
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I'm telling you guys, Yaris+GT-S motor= Fast Ass Eggmobile. Lol
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:40 PM   #59
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The 16V/20V 4AGE comes from a AE101/AE111 Toyota Levin/Trueno Coupe. I am not sure if other cars come with it.
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:46 PM   #60
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16v 4age come in the geo prism sometimes and in the AW11 MR2
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:52 PM   #61
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OK I need to vent a little on this topic, here I go, lets just say you could get a GTS engine in our car, Engine $2900 (ebay). Tranny +/- $1000, then you need labor +/- $1500, mounts, wiring & miscellanious +/- $2000. Now you have invested +/- $7400 & you have a 180 flywheel hp Yaris which equals 145 to the wheels. Now this is all asuming you can get everything done for this amount of $$. Now how many people on this forum are going to spend half of the total cost of their car on a swap? Consider that Blitz & Greedy have a SC & ZPI has a turbo kit for less than half of what a swap cost & only 3 owners have gone in the forced induction route! Guys WE bought a INEXPENSIVE CAR! The possibility of any of us spending $7400 is slim to none. If you wanted more power you needed to start with a better platform. If you want a more powerfull Yaris a Turbo Kit for $3200, a S/C kit for $2500 or a N2O kit for $550 is the best way right now. I am not saying that a swap is never going to be done. But the $ per HP value is just not there. If you have $7400 to spend on your Yaris here is a plan for you: ZPI kit $3200, Pistons & rods $1200, install $1000, These $5400 will get you 200hp + to the wheels. Why swap?

good point. it'll be too expensive of a swap for the outcome. like you said, a turbo or SC will be a better idea.
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Old 06-21-2007, 02:13 AM   #62
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... If you wanted more power you needed to start with a better platform....
...mazdaSPEED3... if i had the money...

i cant be the only one who enjoys a light, low horsepower FWD car... wanna go fast? drop $1500 into a custom tein edfc suspension and another $1500 on driving schools...srry
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:36 AM   #63
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strictly a biased opinion on the rebuild / swap. 3g's for a used engine? that better be prepped and ready in plastic wrap. There are a few yards here that have used long blocks w/ tranny for 1200 or less. This would mean a rebuild but youd have to do that anyway. Buy the engine harness from toyota for a few hundred, the ecu off eba or another yard for 50 bucks. That gets me to about 3500 or so parts only. A far cry from 7400.
And since when are you going to lose 45hp right off the top? There wasnt that much parasitic loss on 30yr old cars. The Yaris itself only loses 10hp as noted on dyno sheets posted up.
That 5400 you claim implies you do all the work yourself? Thats a parts only price too, what shop does the machine work, balancing, tuning? A grand for install? Maybe to drive the car onto the lift.
Ive done plenty of swaps, working on one right now; not on a Yaris but the principle is the same. I do all the work myself and dont pay retail for anything unless I have too. And from everything Ive read about the two engines (1nz and 2zz) they 'should' almost bolt it place of one another.
Both swap and FI are expensive options if you need to pay to have everything done by a shop.
so thats my vent.
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:16 PM   #64
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Over here, all things considered, including labor, It's more or less the same price for all 3 options... but an engine swap is preferable to me, as the new engine is basically stock, so it is not being pushed beyond what it was designed for to produce 180hp, and also leaves a lot more room for improvement.

And, no matter what, a brand new Yaris + all sorts of mods + new engine, here at least, is still gonna cost half of the price of a "proper" sports car, and give those a good run for their money
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:07 PM   #65
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my sentiments exactly
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:10 PM   #66
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^ the engine harness isn't a couple of hundred more like a g. and make sure you got a vin# from the donor car for the harness......
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:45 PM   #67
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theres plenty of corolla's and late model pontiacs available within 400km of my location and yes 2ZZ - ebay isnt the be-all-end-all of shopping but there HAS been plenty of ECU on there for a dime.

there isnt a pile of yaris swaps out there cause apparently its exhorbitantly expensive. guess thats why theres so many with FI.

I priced out an engine to replace my tired 3.1 in my malibu - the engines at the yard I called came complete, tranny and all including wiring to the ECU but not the ECU itself.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:04 AM   #68
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Hello all,

I am eager to soon own a Yaris hatchback. I think it is the perfect hatchback in many ways. Once I get one I want to attend some local SCCA events and hopefully get involved.

Back to the topic, I don't see the practicality of a 1zz or 2zz swap. It wouldn't be cost effective and it couldn't have been explained any better earlier that a 200hp+ Yaris wouldn't perform well on a track. A swap car should be like discovering an Easter egg in software, it was "meant to be there".

Toyota used to produce the Starlet into the late 90's which had a 4EFTE?
After production ended of the Starlet I presume the Vits aka Yaris Echo etc. came about. Isn't there a Vitz turbo? If still in production, What year(s)? I could call a reputable importer I know and see if he knows much about them.
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:34 PM   #69
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4e-efte (starlet turbo) swap ?

Interesting :

http://www.stratisautosport.gr/en/pr....php?id=43#164
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:48 PM   #70
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I'm actually really debating this. Hopefully next month I'll be able to look at my expenses and chains and see what I can do for engine swaps. The 2ZZ-ge does look like good compatability... but idk, Trying to research what other engines you could possibly pop in.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:00 PM   #71
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it couldn't have been explained any better earlier that a 200hp+ Yaris wouldn't perform well on a track.
um, I'm really hoping you're kidding about this. If not, c'mon over and take my car out for a spin. That statement is pure BS. Just keepin' it real.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:24 PM   #72
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Haha, Well, I've done alittle more diggin', The 4AGE can also fit in, the only problems would be the tight fitting of it all. it is a 1.6l engine, and you can get about 135hp+ out of it, so it's a decent boost before you do anything else to it such as i/e/b etc etc. Input?
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