Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by RawrDaddy

Why No Shallow Mount - Under The Seat setups?

-btw x ive been sitting here watching this thread ANXIOUSLY for your results.CHOPCHOP-

Thanks RawrDaddy, I'm very anxiously too!

I think that putting a sub under the seats would miss the point of moving the bass as forward as possible, even though it's not a bad idea, but the space under my seats it's too small after deadening and besides I think it would impact the seats directly.

D.

[sqcomp]

@vimn

I think we're already at and past the point of simply putting tweeters in the pillars. :)

Wouldn't you say D? Both of us have gone WAY past just a simple tweeter install.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

@vimn
I think we're already at and past the point of simply putting tweeters in the pillars. :)
Wouldn't you say D? Both of us have gone WAY past just a simple tweeter install.

We have discuss this before, and I feel "vimn" is just trying to share with us his accomplishments upgrading the speakers with 6.5" components + tweeters, but here we go so we all learn (like me a year ago I knew nothing!)

Some one told me about this issue:

When using components (6.5" + tweeter) it's recommended that you keep them no more than 12" apart. why?

You will end up with female voices (highs) up at the tweeter level and male voices (lows) way down where your 6.5 speakers are. And rear speakers do nothing for "Front Stage" even the Sub want's to go up front!


To accomplish "Sound Stage" is more than that, Time Alignment it's a key feature that makes it possible (a 3D-mentional sensation of sound) . And having a main source of sound it's so important even though we run 4 channels (high, mids, lows, and sub) for Sound Stage I'm using my 3" Mids to be the main source of sound playing with a frequency from 200 hz to 10 Khz, this moves my stage where ever my MIDS are. Highs (tweeter pick up from 10 Khz and up, but they are next to the MIDS so no frequency separation) Also "aiming" the MIDS it's important... I've been learning how it works, for example my mids are aiming to the middle of the front seats (kind of a 45 degrees from the sides) that it's wrong, makes my stage right in front of my face and it's not parallel (kind of like a "V" shape), I feel more like "In Stage" than "Front Stage"

I'm going to redo the Mids aiming almost facing each other so my stage moves over the dashboard (Forward).

Thanks "vimn" for posting, pictures are welcome!

D.

[Viperoni]

The Peerless XLS 10" slim has ridiculously small sealed box req's (on paper...), I wonder how it'd do under our front seats... ?

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Viperoni

The Peerless XLS 10" slim has ridiculously small sealed box req's (on paper...), I wonder how it'd do under our front seats... ?

I didn't find the slim version, but according to them: LINK the Peerless XLS 10" needs 20 liter box, AKA 0.70 cubic feet, 0.10 cf more than (2) I6SW.

I still have 3 Kicker Solo-Baric 10" woofers that work on 0.66 cf, and I could play with one of them too. But the option going under the seats it's out of the equation for me.

Thanks
D.

[sqcomp]

hey D...

Here are the specs as promised:

http://hybrid-audio.com/Imagine%20I6SW.pdf

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

hey D...

Here are the specs as promised:

http://hybrid-audio.com/Imagine%20I6SW.pdf

Thanks!
I was looking at this last night, mmm they are not the same size compared to the L6s

They aren't too deep either, that's good! I'll start sketching...

HAT even had a Photo of the new I6SW on FB...




D.

[RawrDaddy]

Oh Ok
i see now.

(under a seat was the only place upfront that i could think of besides using the dash area >_<)



...imaputmysubinsidemysteeringwheel.

[derickveliz2]

This is what it looks like to accomplish 0.30 cu ft for each I6SW






kind of like a sub-floor!

D.

[sqcomp]

If you do that with a fiberglass floor, it'd be easier. What about that suggestion you made of one vented I6SW?

The distance issue you asked about has to do with phasing and crossover points for the most part. Since you're running active off the deck, you can solve that. Don't worry about it. Jsut ask questions if any issues come up.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

If you do that with a fiberglass floor, it'd be easier. What about that suggestion you made of one vented I6SW?

If I go with 1 vented I6SW then I can still do my L6s in the kick panels...

Me thinking....

D.

[vimnjicki]

I appreciate all the comments and replies, guys and yes, I know most in this thread has gone past a simple tweeter install. I havent done any car audio in over five years and its still, like a kid learning to walk, kinda exciting to actually not screw up the hole i just drilled and/or not reverse the wire polarity.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by vimnjicki

I appreciate all the comments and replies,where is the hole in the firewall through which to run the amplifier power wires? Do I have to make one? Thanks for the replies.

You don't have to make one, Mine is on the passenger's side up under the carpet over the fire wall, others have done it on the pilots side.

D.

[RawrDaddy]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

D.

hey derick x do you have any pics of your current audio setup inside your Yaris?

[sqcomp]

Hey D, be prepped for pics of the L8SE coming soon! I have no speakers in the car right now...next week we're going to map out the trunk build out and I'll probably be leaving the car with Jim and Justin for a week while I use my father's car...

[vimnjicki]

Thanks, Derick. I found the sticky that showed where that hole is in the firewall.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Hey D, be prepped for pics of the L8SE coming soon! I have no speakers in the car right now...next week we're going to map out the trunk build out and I'll probably be leaving the car with Jim and Justin for a week while I use my father's car...

Look at you, I'm trying to get an I6SW and in a few weeks you are going to tell me that they are coming with a new I6SWSE or an I8SW or some thing like that.

You better tell Scott that I would do the Photo Studio pictures for him for FREE of course, just tell him to send a pair of each SE to me. Jeje

D.

[derickveliz2]

Today I tried the IDQ facing UP down in front of the passenger's seat...(sorry for the quality of the photo)

Long story short... my right ear was soar very quickly, and I could feel where the BASS was coming from. So I rotated 90 degrees towards the back, facing the seat. That's the sweet spot.




This is the sweet spot...




The option of putting a woofer facing up it's no more an option.

D.