tooter's manifold adventure...

[tooter]

Originally Posted by malibuguy

Try making one to run on a tooter as well...I dunno how much more room you can move the 'rolla intake out...but it may make magic or become a new doorstop...

No can do...
The tooter's snaking runners already take up most of the front space. It's longer runners are already the equivalent of about a one inch spacer.

The Yaris spacer project will be a ways off just yet as I'm still focused on getting the Tacoma spacers produced and marketed, but it's definitely an intriguing idea worth pursuing.

I already know how well the principle of longer intake runners works on my truck because I'm driving it every day, so I'm sure that it will make a difference on the Yaris. What I don't know is exactly how much difference it will make...

...so that's what we'll find out.

Greg

[Bluevitz-rs]

A spacer will fit either manifold flange it's just a mater of clearance.

[tooter]

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

A spacer will fit either manifold flange it's just a mater of clearance.

Yeah... not enough clearance.
But even if I'll never be able to use it,
it doesn't mean that others can't.

Greg

[Viperoni]

I'd love to see the spacer results on the Yaris :)

[tooter]

Originally Posted by Viperoni

I'd love to see the spacer results on the Yaris :)

So will I...

Can't wait to get started on it. I need to get the production run of tooter II.VII spacers finished first because there's already a list of people waiting to buy them. After the first run is completed I should be able to start on the Yaris spacer.

It's going to be called the

tooter I.V



( yipee... )

...and another tooter manifold just sold on ebay.



Who knew? ...my hobby is actually starting to grow into a little business?

Greg

[ilikerice]

thats awesome. Congrats man. Been following this since day 1. I feel bad for those who are trying to read thru all 80 pages of this thread HAHA.

I know its still in production but whats a ballpark cost are we looking at for the intake mani spacer? Also, will you also provide extended studs or bolts or just give a part number to purchase on our own?

[tooter]

Originally Posted by ilikerice

thats awesome. Congrats man. Been following this since day 1. I feel bad for those who are trying to read thru all 80 pages of this thread HAHA.

There's a reason for putting everything into just one thread. It keeps this stuff from being spread all over the forum. That would be inappropriate. This way, none of the other threads get interfered with.

I know its still in production but whats a ballpark cost are we looking at for the intake mani spacer? Also, will you also provide extended studs or bolts or just give a part number to purchase on our own?

So far it's still only a concept. A prototype hasn't been designed or made, so there hasn't been any dyno testing to determine whether or not it's even worth producing. If it is made, it'll come as a complete kit including proper length studs, flange nuts, and a stock O ring gasket.

From how the R & D and production costs of the truck spacer have been piling up, it will likely be around $250.

[tooter]

I discovered that stainless steel bead blasting aluminum creates a " micro shot peened" surface that polishes up really easy!



To get that lustrous finish in no time at all, I just hit the runners with some #400 sandpaper and then a little rubbing compound on a rag like polishing a silver spoon.

There's also been a recent price adjustment. They're now $595 for the manifold and $295 for the kit.

Greg

[cali yaris]

What were the old prices?

[tooter]

I started the manifolds really low at $450 and then gradually raised them so that I could come up to what the market would bear. Two have sold at $595, the last one from someone who saw my tooter YouTubes.

The internet is an amazing blessing...
It has allowed me as just one person to be able to personally control the total pipeline from concept, to design, to prototype, to testing, to manufacturing, to promotion, and to sales.

I don't have to answer to anyone else except the people who buy my products. The tooters are a very small market, and that was a good place to learn the process. The market for the tooter II.VII spacers is much larger, but I'm now more familiar with the process. On the Tacoma spacers, I was able to go from virtual concept to the reality of actual production for sales in just three months. This is because there are no third parties involved. I make all of the decisions myself, and I fund everything myself, and hire the good honest people who make it happen.

Greg

[tooter]

The first production run of the tooter II.VII manifold spacers is done...



You can see how the spacer relocates the Tacoma intake manifold away from the engine...



My plan is to make an intake manifold spacer kit for our Yaris' because our intake manifolds are similar in design to the 2.7 Tacomas.





Greg

[Bluevitz-rs]

I remember from years past a similar product for the Honda crowd. They were marketed to keep the intake manifold colder and slow heat transfer from the head to the aluminum intake manifold.

[tooter]

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

I remember from years past a similar product for the Honda crowd. They were marketed to keep the intake manifold colder and slow heat transfer from the head to the aluminum intake manifold.

With plastic manifolds, this is not a factor as the spacer is made out of the same material as the manifold. However, lengthening the intake runners does lower the torque peak making the engine pull stronger at lower rpms. Take another look...










The spacer also straightens the flow just before it enters the head. I'll have a prototype made, then dyno test it, and we'll see what happens. This won't be for a while just yet as I'm dealing with the sales of the tooter II.VII spacer right now. When that settles down, then I'll have time to focus on the tooter I.V. :)

Greg

[Bluevitz-rs]

I also remember throttle body spacers with a helical groove cut into them.

[tooter]

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

I also remember throttle body spacers with a helical groove cut into them.

The difference is that at hrottle body spacer does not alter the flow dynamics of the intake manifold other then to very slightly enlarge the plenum area, whereas the intake manifold spacer does by actually making the intake runners physically longer.

People who design and build intake manifolds follow these two basic principles:

1. Longer intake manifold runners enhance low end torque

2. Shorter intake manifold runners enhance top end horsepower

[Flipper_1938]

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

I also remember throttle body spacers with a helical groove cut into them.

I was walking through pull-a-part yesterday and saw a "TORNADO"

[WeeYari]

You seriously need a synopsis thread. I've totally lost track of everything that has gone on in here, and don't much feel like skimming through 81 pages.

If you're serious on selling, I believe you could be missing out on a lot of newbies by not having a clean product offering thread.

[tooter]

Originally Posted by WeeYari

You seriously need a synopsis thread. I've totally lost track of everything that has gone on in here, and don't much feel like skimming through 81 pages.

If you're serious on selling, I believe you could be missing out on a lot of newbies by not having a clean product offering thread.

Hey Wee,

You're right, I'm not that serious because this is just a fun hobby.

There's no Yaris intake manifold spacer to sell anyways because it hasn't been designed or machined or tested yet. So I don't even know if it will work good enough to offer for sale. The Tacoma spacer is for sale on another forum entirely.

The tooter manifolds and kits are all sold out and I've moved on to develop other products.


Greg