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That bone stock dyno chart is not your car, correct? There will be natural variation in that number (note the 93 degree temps for example, warm day!) You've been a big proponent of posting charts for the same car, under the same conditions, on the same dyno, which are awesome when someone bothers to do it, as you have.
The before and after tooter dynos were especially helpful. ![]() Tooter, how did you get the car to rev to 6500? I thought stock rev limit (as shown on the stock dyno) was 6250. I'm also not sure the difference between SAE and STD smoothing -- anyone know?
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Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012
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And the dyno runs tell only part of the story. In normal daily operation nothing was conceded to drivability or to getting excellent gas mileage. I believe this is because I didn't alter the factory electronic engine management and instead turned my attention to the issue of flow.
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Tooter, I really plan on coming up in the next 2 wks or so. I'd like to meet up and talk with you about my ideas for my 1NZ-FXE. It includes a few items like the ones below... ![]() Last edited by JustDidIt; 08-19-2013 at 02:29 AM. |
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Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012
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![]() PM me in advance before you come so that I can set some time aside from work, and we can explore the possibilities. Oh oh, stainless. That's a lot harder to work with than aluminum. But it's still buildable material. ![]() Greg |
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This should be interesting....
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It should be.
The Prius engine operates within different parameters than the Yaris engine does.
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I would also like to know about this.
Different Dyno? Different Day(Humidity/Temp)? Different Car? Different Altitude? Post 1375 is at HK MotorSports in CA Post 1378 is at Keith's Pit Stop in PA
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Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012
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With the stock engine making 106 at the output shaft, 15 horsepower in drive train losses seems to be the norm. I believe that the first two charts are of auto transmissions, so manual transmissions would naturally have less drivetrain losses. So you can spot them a few more horsepower if they were manuals. Interestingly enough, we had the same issue with information dropping out on the graphs, but resolved it by grounding the chassis to a bolt in the concrete floor. Here's another with intake and exhaust mods for comparison. ![]() These are all posted in the dyno thread sticky in this section. It's an interesting read.
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Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012
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Another tooter rolled off the assembly line...
![]() ![]() It's available on ebay for $545 with free shipping. The tooter Build Your Own Intake Manifold Kits are also available on ebay for $295 with free shipping...
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I would like to know how you have come to this conclusion? I wouldn't go totally off the tach that you are showing if that is your evidence. I have had several dyno runs and the software logging without a shadow of a doubt that 6250 is indeed where the stock ECU begins to force the AFR into a serious lean condition which is how Toyota actually "rev" limits as opposed to other methods.
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I don't know what post that's from but on my Echo it is indeed 6500rpm. It's different between models.
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Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006
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So after close to 1400 posts I guess my question is what does this intake actually gain someone? if HP/TQ are negligible are we talking an FE gain at this point? I apologize, but with this many posts even digging back on a couple hundred can be muddled.
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The PR spec cars might be. The PR spec '03 HB I drove a long time ago had a 6700 redline.
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Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006
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^ very good and valid point! I had forgotten that.
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I'll test and video JR's car today. We should be able to hear the fuel cut at 6250... or 6500.. or 6700...
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