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Old 12-19-2008, 01:11 PM   #1
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Seeking wheel advice from someone who KNOWS

I'm looking at Centerlines (forged 6061-T6 alloy). They weigh 14 pounds each and are a bargain.

http://centerlinewheels.com/wheel_de...ehicle&data=33





Anyway, I want a 15" wheel. The size they're offering is a 15" X 7" with a +42 mm offset.

I plan on running a 205/55-15 tire and have the full TRD suspension on the car (springs, shocks, bar).

Is that combination going to give me the clearance I need? I want NO RUBBING AT ALL.

Also, what is the hub diameter for these cars? I've heard 54.1". Is that correct?

I also wanted to verify that the lug spacing is 4 - 100mm.
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you are correct on all counts.. try to pick a "narrow" 205/55.. the fuzion zri was a pretty narrow 205 IIRC
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you are correct on all counts.. try to pick a "narrow" 205/55.. the fuzion zri was a pretty narrow 205 IIRC
Will a "wider" 205/55 rub with that wheel?
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Will a "wider" 205/55 rub with that wheel?
read up on section widths and tread widths on tirerack.com

i think you should clear a +42 ok with no rubbing issues.. what tire were you looking to get?
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curious.. what is a "steal" because that's a pretty heavy 15" wheel
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curious.. what is a "steal" because that's a pretty heavy 15" wheel
I don't know what you mean when you ask, "What is a steal?"

14 pounds is incredibly light for a 15" X 7" wheel.

Most cast aluminum wheels in that size weigh between 18 and 19 pounds and aren't as strong.
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14 pounds is incredibly light for a 15" X 7" wheel.

Most cast aluminum wheels in that size weigh between 18 and 19 pounds and aren't as strong.


12lbs is about average for a 15x7 "light" 15x7

a LIGHT 15x7 weighs under 10lbs

http://edgeracing.com/wheel/7866/
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12lbs is about average for a 15x7 "light" 15x7

a LIGHT 15x7 weighs under 10lbs

http://edgeracing.com/wheel/7866/
How many ten pound wheels do you see here?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/resul...ar=&sort=Brand

19 pounds is about average for the TYPICAL 15 X 6.5" - 15" X 7" gravity cast aluminum wheel.

Racing wheels tend to bend on bad pavement (e.g. potholes, which our roads are full of). I don't want that. I want a robust wheel that's designed to handle the realities of STREET use.

Oh, I'm 45 and have a degree in mechanical engineering.

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How many ten pound wheels do you see here?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/resul...ar=&sort=Brand

19 pounds is about average for the TYPICAL gravity cast 15" X 7":
you're looking in the wrong places then..

www.goodwinracing.com will point you in the direction of quality wheels..
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How many ten pound wheels do you see here?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/resul...ar=&sort=Brand

19 pounds is about average for the TYPICAL 15 X 6.5" - 15" X 7" gravity cast aluminum wheel.

Racing wheels tend to bend on bad pavement (e.g. potholes, which our roads are full of). I don't want that. I want a robust wheel that's designed to handle the realities of STREET use.

Oh, I'm 45 and have a degree in mechanical engineering.

Go anything else you want to ask?
I have sub 10lb wheels on our Yaris.

Enkei RPF1s are sub 10lbs if you don't want to spend big $$ on wheels.

a 19lb 15" wheel is insane, i've had 17x8s that were that light.
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I don't know what you mean when you ask, "What is a steal?"
i mean, how much are you getting them for?
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i mean, how much are you getting them for?
Call and ask:

http://centerlinewheels.com/wheel_de...ehicle&data=33

I believe they're in the $150 (each) range, which is extremely competitive for a forged 6061-T6 alloy wheel.
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Call and ask:

http://centerlinewheels.com/wheel_de...ehicle&data=33

I believe they're in the $150 (each) range, which is extremely competitive for a forged 6061-T6 alloy wheel.
for forged, absolutely..

but for forged it's on the WAY heavy side
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then how come it says:

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This 15-inch forged wheel weighs only 14 lbs and is stronger than a cast wheel ! ++
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then how come it says:
14 pounds is light for an aluminum STREET wheel with a 1,200 pound load rating.

Racing wheels can be lighter because tracks aren't full of potholes, frostheaves and expansion joints.

Drive a 10 pound racing wheel on these roads and see how long it lasts.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/w...treet-use.html

"A word on BBS Race wheels for street use
I see many inquiries and threads on these wheels, and I think it's fair to warn people that don't know that these wheels were not designed for street use and BBS does not recommend them to be used off of a track. The barrel sections are roll formed and they are considerably thinner on these wheels than they would be on one of their road wheels. It saves weight, but it makes the wheel much more likely to be damaged by potholes, etc."
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14 pounds is light for an aluminum STREET wheel with a 1,200 pound load rating.

Racing wheels can be lighter because tracks aren't full of potholes, frostheaves and expansion joints.

Drive a 10 pound racing wheel on these roads and see how long it lasts.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/w...treet-use.html

"A word on BBS Race wheels for street use
I see many inquiries and threads on these wheels, and I think it's fair to warn people that don't know that these wheels were not designed for street use and BBS does not recommend them to be used off of a track. The barrel sections are roll formed and they are considerably thinner on these wheels than they would be on one of their road wheels. It saves weight, but it makes the wheel much more likely to be damaged by potholes, etc."
so bc a specific BBS "race" wheel isn't meant for street use all light weight wheels don't pass your strict testing?
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:05 PM   #17
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i think this guy should change his thread title to "seeking advice from people who will agree with me"

because you're talking right now to two people who KNOW
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:20 PM   #18
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14 pounds isn't "obscenely heavy" for a 15x7, but it's not exactly "light", either.

My 15x7 Falken Hanabi's weigh just a tick over 11 pounds each and cost about $89 each. THAT is light and cheap. But, not everyone likes the styling. My goals were "light and cheap", so I didn't care.

To answer your rubbing question: I'd stick with 195/55's. I've not had any rubbing with those. Had some with 215/50's (Toyo T1-R, which were actually closer to 205). And I'm on 15x7 with 41mm offset.

I also had rubbing on the upper fender liner under hard cornering with 195/55's on a 15x7 with 32mm offset. Definitely stick with offset in the 40-45mm range unless you value the bling of "flushness" more than not rubbing.
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