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Old 02-19-2022, 11:11 PM   #1
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Fram is trash, I wouldn't put that garbage on a $500 plow truck.
I'm gonna need to see some proof for those claims. There's plenty of videos showing the cardstock end caps being the only difference, and who cares if the paper filter media is held in with cardstock?. If anything will fail on any oil filter, it's the filter media. It's much weaker than the end cap, and if the filter media fails, it sends contaminated oil into the engine. The filter media on fram filters shows no shortcomings to the expensive brands.

I've never heard or seen someone show a catastrophic failure of an oil filter. Just monkeys tightening them with wrenches until the gasket splits

The cheaper the filter is made, the better. I can't afford to spend my time on trying to stab through a beefy oil filter that can't include the non slip coating. Fram spins off toolless. That's invaluable to me

I get confused when people have such a strong stance on filters but the reasoning is piss poor. If you have any reason to hate fram, please chime in. I have no brand loyalty whatsoever and will switch to your filter brand if the value is there
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Old 02-21-2022, 01:08 PM   #2
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I'm gonna need to see some proof for those claims. There's plenty of videos showing the cardstock end caps being the only difference, and who cares if the paper filter media is held in with cardstock?. If anything will fail on any oil filter, it's the filter media. It's much weaker than the end cap, and if the filter media fails, it sends contaminated oil into the engine. The filter media on fram filters shows no shortcomings to the expensive brands.

I've never heard or seen someone show a catastrophic failure of an oil filter. Just monkeys tightening them with wrenches until the gasket splits

The cheaper the filter is made, the better. I can't afford to spend my time on trying to stab through a beefy oil filter that can't include the non slip coating. Fram spins off toolless. That's invaluable to me

I get confused when people have such a strong stance on filters but the reasoning is piss poor. If you have any reason to hate fram, please chime in. I have no brand loyalty whatsoever and will switch to your filter brand if the value is there
Why not invest in an adjustable oil filter wrench if you're always that strapped for time then? They're like 15 bucks on amazon and are a lifesaver, no more stabby stab.
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Old 02-23-2022, 07:07 AM   #3
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Why not invest in an adjustable oil filter wrench if you're always that strapped for time then? They're like 15 bucks on amazon and are a lifesaver, no more stabby stab.
I have about 3 different types of oil filter wrenches. Sometimes these monkeys torque an oil filter to 40lb ft of torque, and once there's a drop of oil or dirt on the canister, nothing will grab like a screwdriver poked the whole way through. It's also much easier to use a screwdriver if you can get over the mess. I hate trying to use a tool that in my opinion doesn't save time and almost always leads to frustration

I think the first oil change, i got it off with channel locks. After that was a breeze because i make them hand snug
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