6 Speed - Toyota Yaris Forums

Maitre_Te_Te · 01-14-2010, 10:36 PM

Hello
Anybody have try to put a 6 speed transaxel on 1nz-fe?

1.5 · 01-21-2010, 12:48 AM

too much money for something so unnecessary.

kngrsll · 01-21-2010, 07:47 AM

its been talked about... ive debated giving it a shot. if you are serious, there is a 1st gen vitz that has done it using the 6spd + LSD from the blacktop 4AGE engines. Id look into what he did and go from there.

thebarber · 01-21-2010, 09:35 AM

from what i understand, the 6speed from a 4age will bolt up

c60 from a gt-s/xrs wont fit, but i was talking to a toyota tech last month, and the gears will fit in a c54 (i think thats what it is, maybe a c50)

Sidicas · 01-21-2010, 12:13 PM

I've heard the Ford Fiesta Hatchback has 6 speed.

cali yaris · 01-21-2010, 12:38 PM

I think the OP's question is answered, which is that one guy with an Echo mated a 6-speed to a 4AGE.

My question is what is the advantage to a 6-speed on this car?

1.5 · 01-21-2010, 12:44 PM

thanks garm thats exactly what I posted lol.

Very expensive with little to no benefit. You might shave a tenth of a second on acceleration due to more torquey first gears and u might get 1 or 2 extra mpg in 6th gear but really worth the couple grand to find, buy, modify (if needed), and install the damn thing? I dont think so.

thebarber · 01-21-2010, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

My question is what is the advantage to a 6-speed on this car?

well, given the the powerband is pretty linear in the this car, i would imagine just to have closer gearing to stay in whatever piece of the powerband you'd like more easily?

lower 6th than the yaris's 5th for lower rpms on the highway?

1.5 · 01-21-2010, 01:03 PM

yea those are benefits but we're just saying that they will be very slight to notice and its not really worth the large amount of money this project would require.

Kongo-Otto · 01-21-2010, 01:07 PM

Maybe the new 6 speed gearbox seen with the 1NR-FE engine could work. But i doubt its worth the effort.

1.5 · 01-21-2010, 01:11 PM

omg transmissions are the most complicated parts. ^^

yaris2010RS · 01-21-2010, 11:22 PM

i thought of this idea (for about 1.2seconds) cuz having a 6th gear is a cool idea, but really i agree, not worth time, effort or money.

Bluevitz-rs · 01-22-2010, 05:41 PM

For anyone that ever goes to the track, the 6 spd is TOTALY worth it. And revs would be HIGHER in 6th on the hwy. My parents have a XRS with the 6 spd and even with the tires being a lot bigger it still revs higher than the Echo in any gear.

For comparison...
C160
C150
A Graph to show the difference. 6th gear is less than 6mph faster @ 6500 than 4th on the 5spd. That's a massive difference in acceleration.

thebarber · 01-22-2010, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

For anyone that ever goes to the track, the 6 spd is TOTALY worth it. And revs would be HIGHER in 6th on the hwy. My parents have a XRS with the 6 spd and even with the tires being a lot bigger it still revs higher than the Echo in any gear.

For comparison...
C160
C150
A Graph to show the difference. 6th gear is less than 6mph faster @ 6500 than 4th on the 5spd. That's a massive difference in acceleration.

good stuff, i figured you might pop in at some point

yaris2010RS · 01-22-2010, 07:20 PM

thats kool, but would the yaris (or vitz) be able to hold down the extra acceleration to the track? i know slicks (orjsut supper soft compounds) would be in order but even that wouldn't it be very very difficult?

Bluevitz-rs · 01-23-2010, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebarber

good stuff, i figured you might pop in at some point

Yeah echodriver.com is getting a little slow. I used to be on here more often until my account got hacked

Kongo-Otto · 01-23-2010, 05:48 AM

Hm my revs with the 6 speed are definitely lower on the Autobahn. That was the main reason for Toyota to introduce this gearbox here. More fuel efficiency. But i am sure i dont have a C160. Must be something else because its very new.

thebarber · 01-23-2010, 06:30 AM

id imagine it depends on the final drive you've got in the transmission. i thought wikipedia showed that the 6th gear in the c60 is lower than the 5th in the yaris

01-14-2010, 10:36 PM	#1
Maitre_Te_Te Drives: Yaris 08 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Québec Posts: 104	6 Speed Hello Anybody have try to put a 6 speed transaxel on 1nz-fe?

01-21-2010, 12:48 AM	#2
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	too much money for something so unnecessary. __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

01-21-2010, 07:47 AM	#3
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	its been talked about... ive debated giving it a shot. if you are serious, there is a 1st gen vitz that has done it using the 6spd + LSD from the blacktop 4AGE engines. Id look into what he did and go from there. __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

01-21-2010, 09:35 AM	#4
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	from what i understand, the 6speed from a 4age will bolt up c60 from a gt-s/xrs wont fit, but i was talking to a toyota tech last month, and the gears will fit in a c54 (i think thats what it is, maybe a c50) __________________

01-21-2010, 12:38 PM	#6
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I think the OP's question is answered, which is that one guy with an Echo mated a 6-speed to a 4AGE. My question is what is the advantage to a 6-speed on this car? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

01-21-2010, 12:13 PM	#5
Sidicas Drives: 2010 Toyota Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NY Posts: 82	I've heard the Ford Fiesta Hatchback has 6 speed.

01-21-2010, 12:44 PM	#7
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	thanks garm thats exactly what I posted lol. Very expensive with little to no benefit. You might shave a tenth of a second on acceleration due to more torquey first gears and u might get 1 or 2 extra mpg in 6th gear but really worth the couple grand to find, buy, modify (if needed), and install the damn thing? I dont think so. __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

01-21-2010, 01:03 PM	#9
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	yea those are benefits but we're just saying that they will be very slight to notice and its not really worth the large amount of money this project would require. __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

01-21-2010, 01:07 PM	#10
Kongo-Otto Drives: '09 Yaris & '10 Auris Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 268	Maybe the new 6 speed gearbox seen with the 1NR-FE engine could work. But i doubt its worth the effort.

01-21-2010, 01:11 PM	#11
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	omg transmissions are the most complicated parts. ^^ __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

01-21-2010, 11:22 PM	#12
yaris2010RS View User's Garage Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Angus, Ontario Posts: 1,891	i thought of this idea (for about 1.2seconds) cuz having a 6th gear is a cool idea, but really i agree, not worth time, effort or money. __________________ If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it

01-22-2010, 05:41 PM	#13
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	For anyone that ever goes to the track, the 6 spd is TOTALY worth it. And revs would be HIGHER in 6th on the hwy. My parents have a XRS with the 6 spd and even with the tires being a lot bigger it still revs higher than the Echo in any gear. For comparison... C160 C150 A Graph to show the difference. 6th gear is less than 6mph faster @ 6500 than 4th on the 5spd. That's a massive difference in acceleration.

01-22-2010, 07:20 PM	#15
yaris2010RS View User's Garage Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Angus, Ontario Posts: 1,891	thats kool, but would the yaris (or vitz) be able to hold down the extra acceleration to the track? i know slicks (orjsut supper soft compounds) would be in order but even that wouldn't it be very very difficult? __________________ If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it

01-23-2010, 05:48 AM	#17
Kongo-Otto Drives: '09 Yaris & '10 Auris Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 268	Hm my revs with the 6 speed are definitely lower on the Autobahn. That was the main reason for Toyota to introduce this gearbox here. More fuel efficiency. But i am sure i dont have a C160. Must be something else because its very new.

01-23-2010, 06:30 AM	#18
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	id imagine it depends on the final drive you've got in the transmission. i thought wikipedia showed that the 6th gear in the c60 is lower than the 5th in the yaris __________________

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