Turbo kit from Ebay - whatr some opinions? - Toyota Yaris Forums

mikeukrainetz · 11-24-2006, 04:44 PM

I have gone back to this item I dont know how many times to take a look, obviously its not high quality stuff but short of a fuel computer anyone think this crap is worth a try?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...6520&rd=1&rd=1

bigsky2 · 11-24-2006, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeukrainetz

I have gone back to this item I dont know how many times to take a look, obviously its not high quality stuff but short of a fuel computer anyone think this crap is worth a try?

3476 views - you are quite the busy bee

I personally would hold back the impulsive tendency and wait for a proper turbo kit.

But if you are really comfortable with the work involved and are prepared to source missing parts and components, I say do it. I've witnessed self installed (aka hack job) turbos on late model Hondas and they were pretty functional (and good).

Katana · 11-24-2006, 06:15 PM

It fits any car?

punch · 11-24-2006, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeukrainetz

I have gone back to this item I dont know how many times to take a look, obviously its not high quality stuff but short of a fuel computer anyone think this crap is worth a try?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...6520&rd=1&rd=1

plus a custom exhaust header, plus custom piping, plus the fuel control, plus the blown engine cost's, plus the cost of running higher octane fuel, plus the extra wear on the tranny/clutch, plus the torque steer.... i say go for it, someone has to be the first, i'll wait for trd's products, plug and play!!

khrys771 · 11-25-2006, 07:21 PM

that turbo is the same turbo that SSautochrom sales, otherwise pure crap made in china. do a general search on the web about SS autochrome.

spkrman · 11-25-2006, 07:38 PM

doesnt look that bad to me? I did search and saw mixed reviews... but where there are mixed reviews, that means there are some positives :)

Add it up and see how much it saves you as opposed to ebaying a used turbo, and just sourcing all the parts seperately. I've heard of some kits, with some ebay expertise, getting all new stuff for under 1200.

I dont see the turbo itself being all that impossible, the tuning of it is all that worries me.

ChinoCharles · 11-26-2006, 01:24 AM

If I was looking for a low-cost way to get high horsepower gains, I wouldn't be thinking of a turbo. I would be thinking nitrous.

Forced induction is a big step. It requires a proper tuning of the ECU which will (likely) cost you hundreds at your local reputable dyno shop, and in the case of a turbo will probably require overseas parts or custom parts for proper fitment. It definitely isn't a good area of modification to skimp on. For that reason, I wouldn't touch the turbo listed here with a 49 1/2 foot pole.

The Yaris's power band screams supercharger to me anyway. A supercharged and sprayed Yaris would be quite the quick little kart.

acrbill · 11-26-2006, 02:05 AM

First off, that turbo is absolute garbage. It will fail in short order.

Second, its wayy to big for a 1.5L motor.

Unless your pushing 800hp most ebay intercoolers will work fine.

I actually have that same exact boost controller and BOV on my PT cruiser.

The boost controller works fine, but the BOV had some initial quality issues. The casting for the body was horrid, so much so that there was a hole in the body that I needed to epoxy. The internals look pretty decent.

I would go with a garrett gt28r turbo. It would be a close match for the yaris motor.

spkrman · 11-26-2006, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

If I was looking for a low-cost way to get high horsepower gains, I wouldn't be thinking of a turbo. I would be thinking nitrous.

Forced induction is a big step. It requires a proper tuning of the ECU which will (likely) cost you hundreds at your local reputable dyno shop, and in the case of a turbo will probably require overseas parts or custom parts for proper fitment. It definitely isn't a good area of modification to skimp on. For that reason, I wouldn't touch the turbo listed here with a 49 1/2 foot pole.

The Yaris's power band screams supercharger to me anyway. A supercharged and sprayed Yaris would be quite the quick little kart.

NOS would be fun, I'm considering headin in that direction instead of a turbo... the turbo is so $. Even a small shot of NOS would be pretty sweet.

acrbill · 11-26-2006, 11:11 AM

You will never be happy with nitrous. Since the motor would only be able to stand a very small "shot" you would barely feel it. Nitrous is not really a street friendly mod. Plus at $50 a refill it will get old really fast.

keesue · 11-26-2006, 12:26 PM

The thing one needs to consider is the existing compression ratio of the engine along with several other factors; i.e, the added fuel pressure requirements, running premium fuel, recalibrating the ECU to enrichen as boost is applied as well as the longevity of the engine components. I'm not sure, but the turbo RS model may have different componens (pistons and rods) to handle the pressure along with a recalibrated ECU. That is generally the case when the factory produces a turbo. This is not to say it can't be done after the fact but a little research and extreme care should be considered. I'm sure some one will produce the right kit for it.

mikeukrainetz · 11-27-2006, 07:36 PM

There are correct kits already for this application by numerous compaines, Blitz being one example for the Xb but check out the price tag. Im not condoning buying cheap shit parts but I dont want to pay 'Hilfiger' prices for the same shit parts. I do pretty much all my own wrenching, always have and it doesnt bother me a bit, I just hate all this computer controlled stuff as 'efficient' and 'power producing' as it may be. Nothing sounds as good or as grin enducing than a carbureted big block ford or chev...

Ive never done a turbo, I just bought an 86 volvo turbo wagon and love it. Theres an awsome shop in my area that does performance tuning and dyno for a decent price (so Ive heard) and tons of custom machine shops (CNC, gotta love it). I do all my own CAD design and can produce the necessary files for CNC to save a bundle in design but dont have a flow bench or equivalent software for testing.

Nitrous is great if your street racing or running the quarter and not much else, it costs $100 to fill a 10lb tank here.

The compression issue is fairly easy to deal with - see this link for a perfect example http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/headgaskets.html

Maybe (from what response Ive got) Ill look for a more appropriate turbo but what about the other parts, tubes, hoses, intercooler? From what Ive found a decent intercooler can run about $300 plus. I guess I was more interested in the fact it came as a total kit (less controller). Personally I think it would be easier to retro fit an existing GM supercharger but am concerned with the amount of power that can be produced from such a small displacement without extremely high boost.

Katana · 11-28-2006, 05:23 PM

Guys just wait up for the Blitz kit...

mikeukrainetz · 11-28-2006, 07:22 PM

I wont have any choice but to wait until spring / early summer but hate the fact these things are going for 4 grand.

Katana · 12-02-2006, 06:01 PM

I wouldn't trust them in my car...

DTM_Yaris · 12-14-2006, 10:37 PM

That 57 trim is a copy of a Garret bastard turbo. Very inefficient and not worth getting. Never mind the only thing that would probably fit on that "kit" is the BOV. The rest is way to big for a 1.5l
Just my 2 cents

mikeukrainetz · 12-14-2006, 11:35 PM

Ive never owned / built a turbo except for my wifes volvo we just bought so Im still playing catch-up on FI setups other than supercharging (Ive stuck with ford / chev V8s never imports) the principles are pretty much the same.
I understand the size may be oversize for the Yaris its the only kit that was available at the time to use for asking the question.
If I wasnt now seriously considering an engine swap I would dig a little deeper into the FI setups.

Quick question on the turbos - is it then worth it to just buy a Garret or other turbo and use a 'kit' for the rest of the parts? More or less doubling the cost but getting a decent turbo? Vibrant here in canada sells intercoolers but theyre also around 300+ a piece.

paultyler_82 · 12-14-2006, 11:51 PM

I've been trying to scavenge the junkyards now for some time looking for a Dodge Shelby CSX-VNT ... I want one of those Garret VNTs, granted I'd have to make some sort of custom controller to control the vanes, but a turbo with practically no lag, and a shorter spool up time is just so appealing... I've been talking to the people at Garret, but they don't seem to want to sell single VNTs to a non OEM

11-24-2006, 04:44 PM	#1
mikeukrainetz View User's Garage Drives: 2006 Toyota Yaris Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 564	Turbo kit from Ebay - whatr some opinions? I have gone back to this item I dont know how many times to take a look, obviously its not high quality stuff but short of a fuel computer anyone think this crap is worth a try? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...6520&rd=1&rd=1 __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2336679

11-24-2006, 06:15 PM	#3
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	It fits any car? __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

11-26-2006, 01:24 AM	#7
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	If I was looking for a low-cost way to get high horsepower gains, I wouldn't be thinking of a turbo. I would be thinking nitrous. Forced induction is a big step. It requires a proper tuning of the ECU which will (likely) cost you hundreds at your local reputable dyno shop, and in the case of a turbo will probably require overseas parts or custom parts for proper fitment. It definitely isn't a good area of modification to skimp on. For that reason, I wouldn't touch the turbo listed here with a 49 1/2 foot pole. The Yaris's power band screams supercharger to me anyway. A supercharged and sprayed Yaris would be quite the quick little kart. Last edited by ChinoCharles; 11-26-2006 at 01:45 AM.

11-26-2006, 12:26 PM	#11
keesue Chillin' out by the Bay Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The back streets of San Fran Posts: 151	The thing one needs to consider is the existing compression ratio of the engine along with several other factors; i.e, the added fuel pressure requirements, running premium fuel, recalibrating the ECU to enrichen as boost is applied as well as the longevity of the engine components. I'm not sure, but the turbo RS model may have different componens (pistons and rods) to handle the pressure along with a recalibrated ECU. That is generally the case when the factory produces a turbo. This is not to say it can't be done after the fact but a little research and extreme care should be considered. I'm sure some one will produce the right kit for it. __________________ Gettin' all the way down. Meteorite '07 HB STILL completely stock; but.... checkin' out da other ones to see what's what.

11-27-2006, 07:36 PM	#12
mikeukrainetz View User's Garage Drives: 2006 Toyota Yaris Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 564	There are correct kits already for this application by numerous compaines, Blitz being one example for the Xb but check out the price tag. Im not condoning buying cheap shit parts but I dont want to pay 'Hilfiger' prices for the same shit parts. I do pretty much all my own wrenching, always have and it doesnt bother me a bit, I just hate all this computer controlled stuff as 'efficient' and 'power producing' as it may be. Nothing sounds as good or as grin enducing than a carbureted big block ford or chev... Ive never done a turbo, I just bought an 86 volvo turbo wagon and love it. Theres an awsome shop in my area that does performance tuning and dyno for a decent price (so Ive heard) and tons of custom machine shops (CNC, gotta love it). I do all my own CAD design and can produce the necessary files for CNC to save a bundle in design but dont have a flow bench or equivalent software for testing. Nitrous is great if your street racing or running the quarter and not much else, it costs $100 to fill a 10lb tank here. The compression issue is fairly easy to deal with - see this link for a perfect example http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/headgaskets.html Maybe (from what response Ive got) Ill look for a more appropriate turbo but what about the other parts, tubes, hoses, intercooler? From what Ive found a decent intercooler can run about $300 plus. I guess I was more interested in the fact it came as a total kit (less controller). Personally I think it would be easier to retro fit an existing GM supercharger but am concerned with the amount of power that can be produced from such a small displacement without extremely high boost. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2336679

11-25-2006, 07:21 PM	#5
khrys771 I've made a post! Drives: mazda 323 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: lexington, ky Posts: 1	that turbo is the same turbo that SSautochrom sales, otherwise pure crap made in china. do a general search on the web about SS autochrome.

11-25-2006, 07:38 PM	#6
spkrman Banned View User's Garage Drives: 1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 2 Posts: 1,476	doesnt look that bad to me? I did search and saw mixed reviews... but where there are mixed reviews, that means there are some positives :) Add it up and see how much it saves you as opposed to ebaying a used turbo, and just sourcing all the parts seperately. I've heard of some kits, with some ebay expertise, getting all new stuff for under 1200. I dont see the turbo itself being all that impossible, the tuning of it is all that worries me.

11-26-2006, 02:05 AM	#8
acrbill Drives: Polar White Hatch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 407	First off, that turbo is absolute garbage. It will fail in short order. Second, its wayy to big for a 1.5L motor. Unless your pushing 800hp most ebay intercoolers will work fine. I actually have that same exact boost controller and BOV on my PT cruiser. The boost controller works fine, but the BOV had some initial quality issues. The casting for the body was horrid, so much so that there was a hole in the body that I needed to epoxy. The internals look pretty decent. I would go with a garrett gt28r turbo. It would be a close match for the yaris motor.

11-26-2006, 11:11 AM	#10
acrbill Drives: Polar White Hatch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 407	You will never be happy with nitrous. Since the motor would only be able to stand a very small "shot" you would barely feel it. Nitrous is not really a street friendly mod. Plus at $50 a refill it will get old really fast.

11-28-2006, 05:23 PM	#13
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	Guys just wait up for the Blitz kit... __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

11-28-2006, 07:22 PM	#14
mikeukrainetz View User's Garage Drives: 2006 Toyota Yaris Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 564	I wont have any choice but to wait until spring / early summer but hate the fact these things are going for 4 grand. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2336679

12-02-2006, 06:01 PM	#15
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	I wouldn't trust them in my car... __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

12-14-2006, 10:37 PM	#16
DTM_Yaris Turbo Yaris Drives: 07 PW Yaris Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dulles, VA Posts: 82	That 57 trim is a copy of a Garret bastard turbo. Very inefficient and not worth getting. Never mind the only thing that would probably fit on that "kit" is the BOV. The rest is way to big for a 1.5l Just my 2 cents

12-14-2006, 11:35 PM	#17
mikeukrainetz View User's Garage Drives: 2006 Toyota Yaris Join Date: May 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 564	Ive never owned / built a turbo except for my wifes volvo we just bought so Im still playing catch-up on FI setups other than supercharging (Ive stuck with ford / chev V8s never imports) the principles are pretty much the same. I understand the size may be oversize for the Yaris its the only kit that was available at the time to use for asking the question. If I wasnt now seriously considering an engine swap I would dig a little deeper into the FI setups. Quick question on the turbos - is it then worth it to just buy a Garret or other turbo and use a 'kit' for the rest of the parts? More or less doubling the cost but getting a decent turbo? Vibrant here in canada sells intercoolers but theyre also around 300+ a piece. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2336679

12-14-2006, 11:51 PM	#18
paultyler_82 View User's Garage Drives: 07 Meteorite Metallic Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 441	I've been trying to scavenge the junkyards now for some time looking for a Dodge Shelby CSX-VNT ... I want one of those Garret VNTs, granted I'd have to make some sort of custom controller to control the vanes, but a turbo with practically no lag, and a shorter spool up time is just so appealing... I've been talking to the people at Garret, but they don't seem to want to sell single VNTs to a non OEM

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