HAT Mirus

[patm]

Anyone hear the Mirus. Thoughts.

谢谢, patm

[sqcomp]

Yes, but I'm HEAVILY biased towards the brand.

I'm in Scott Buwalda's (the owner of Hybrid Audio Technologies) inner circle. I'm "co-piloting" his G-35 at SBN/INAC on the 23rd...

That being said, I can say this without any bias:

the Imagine components are Hybrid Audio Technologies' best selling speakers. Mirus is the step before Imagine. Know that if you get into the Mirus, you'll have at least a 60% trade up value towards any other HAT speaker.

Now, my biased opinion is such that you would compare the Mirus set to perhaps a Hertz Energy coax. The Mirus should have a better bass response and a smoother tweeter.

The truth will be when they're in the doors. If you hear them in a sound board, they sound better in a vehicle.

[derickveliz2]

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Hey, I'm not in Scott's inner circle, but if I had to do this all over again.. eyes closed... HAT would be my only choice!

D.

[sqcomp]

Interesting...

Well, give the OP another option aside from the stock speakers that you would run.

I'll reserve my artillery fire on your position off the irresponsible marketing comment. I now know why you and I are on opposite sides most of the time. The last time I noticed, 40 - 3000 Hz is far from full range.

The informational content offered by HAT is a lot more than most, if not all, speaker manufacturers. Detail for us what you want to classify as "irresponsible marketing BS". Let us know where you stand exactly. I would love to know why you have the hate for Hybrid Audio. Because most assuredly, these speakers have proven themselves time and time again...

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

Why exactly?

See all my life is full of passions and dreams, it's very common on me to become a FAN of some thing I like, like cars a Mercedes Benz vrs a Toyota both cars are great, and good, I had Toyota cars before I feel they are good then I become a FAN.

But I'm not here to talk about cars, I've been a FAN of Pioneer all my life, and I still believe in Pioneer, hey wait! my HU is Pioneer!

I also like Kicker, JVL, or HERTZ for example, my MIDs are HL-70 HERTZ... why I didn't buy HAT well it's easy when I was shopping the HL-70 and HAT L3 where in my list, about the same price but HL-70 had better looks! now I'm saving to replace them with the new high end 3" Mids from HAT, why?... because I believe in a good product. Not that HERTZ isn't a good product, HERTZ is great! It's like a Ferrari and Lamborghini...

Now from experience I like costumer service... (end user my friend)
I had to contact Pioneer a couple of times... took a while to get an answer, same with HERTZ 2 or 3 weeks to respond... One day I email HAT, 5 minutes later I get the owner of the company calling my cell phone. Even I didn't buy anything I just had a question...

and since then every time I ask I get an answer, very friendly with lots of information and tips. Every body knows I wasn't born in the U.S. (or tell because I write with accent, jeje) even though I can vote! and I like to participate and be part of the culture, I like when a product says... "Made in the USA" [a little bit of support doesn't hurt]

what others say and what I read... yes good and bad, but they must be doing some thing right! wining a bunch of tournaments! I know there is lots of Marketing involve, sales and profit, but thinking outside the box... that's the world we are living...

I've gained so much knowledge from HAT database that I'm a FAN, I like their products and I use them with great satisfaction.

what if there was no HAT, .... well then It would be some thing else like Alpine, Focal, etc. Same thing with cars, HONDA is good too so is VW and Porsche, but what makes a good product really good is when I like it.

Every body is different and every body listens in a different way; there is no rule of thumb just opinions, that is why the colors are there for... so you pick the one you like best. It doesn't matter to me what he/she gets, I gave my opinion of what would I do if I had to do it all over again... I even posted today some thing very funny and it goes like this...

"I do not recommend HAT products, they are really good and I'm very selfish"

So I hope I answered your question "Why exactly?"....

Lets help our friends and lets get them exited about some thing we like, lets share the passion we live every day with our cars and sound systems.

If I had started this thread I probably would have been very exited with a response like "go for it they sound great" because I can see where I'm going.


Lets have fun! we are cool! YarisWorld COOL!

D.

[sqcomp]

Tolm,

Irresponsible marketing is NOT what you don't like. It's readily apparent. The text you're quoting out of the posted manual and the reasons for it are for the most part reactions of your opinion. If you chose to react with "irresponsible marketing", so be it.

I'll put it to you this way, bring your best. Supremeos or esotars...what have you. I would love to demonstrate, in the lanes, why HAT is so damned good as a whole. How about the western Canadian regionals in August is a great time. You are also invited to the upcoming events in Washington and Oregon.

"Marketing" aside, I am confident that HAT products will put anything else in second place. HAT has been doing that for years now. The sound championships across the big three sanctioning organizations prove it. Heck, just last month, Jim Becker achieved one of the highest scores ever in MECA competition with Imagines. That sparked a firestorm of disbelief.

Members like you is why I stopped my own thread. Non-ending criticism of anything I use or try to do. I proved them wrong about HAT products with a win at the western Canadian finals...with a half built car against real competition.

It's unfortunate, but it's readily apparent that you do not like Hybrid Audio Technologies products. I would rather simply keep the dialog at a certain level. You've given your alternate choices of speakers. Cool. I'll rest on the fact that I can personally beat any brand of competition at any price point in sanctioned competition with HAT products. I've proven it and will continue to do so in the only way we can...in the lanes.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

How about the western Canadian regionals in August is a great time. You are also invited to the upcoming events in Washington and Oregon.

I want to go... mmm 2nd thought... to far for me )o:

D.

[sqcomp]

Derick...

No worries mang. You can go to the Eastern Canadian championships in Toronto IIRC. If you decide you want to, let me know. I'll hook you up with Larry Woolcot and Louis Chouinard. They are both Team Hybrids members that can help you in your first competition.

In the mean time you and I can work on a build log that will put the judges at rest and give you full points...if you want.

[sqcomp]

This is for the OP:

"I picked up the Hybrid Audio line on a hunch from a friend and the reviews that I had read having never actually heard them. I knew the quality was top notch and were supposed to be comparable to many of the other top brands. What I didn't expect was for them to blow them out of the water.

'Good God' is all I had to say. The imaging, the clarity and the definition... I had also just had a Hertz demo car come by my shop 4 days beforehand so I had a crystal point to judge on. the 6.5" mid basses in the door had more than enough umph, even crossed over below 40 hz, if I'm not mistaken. L3s in the dash were unreal as far as range and sound quality. The Legatia tweeters were crystal clear. The only lacking component of these were when playing on "Queen of the Damned soundtrack and that very well could have been the recording as it was a 8+ year old CD that's been used very well. But we sat down for over 2 hours and just sampled music from "O Brother Where Art Thou, Crystal Method, Michael Jackson, Enya, 311, etc... nothing missed a beat.

Honestly it is hard to put the sound quality of these components into words except that it definently gives my $30,000 Bang & Olufsen home stereo a run for it's money.

If anyone on here was wondering of their quality, I definently urge you to contact a Hybrid dealer or rep to find someone with some of their components.

Chad Bosworth
Bosworth Audio Sound Solutions
Brand new Hybrid Audio Technologies dealer"

There's this as well:

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...d-hybrids.html

Then there's this:

"Unbeknownst to me, the owner of the shop I frequent took a high paying customer's Focal K2 tweeter, along with the customer's Morel Supremo Piccolo tweeter, and your (our, mine, whatever) L1 Pro SE tweeter on a head to head challenge. The test was something off the cuff, tweeters wrapped in towels (not that the Morel or Legatia needed to be), on the test bench playing off a cheap head unit, cheap amplifier, and Morel mids (mounted above the working area backing the tweeters up.

The following is coming from the shop owner, Jim, who has been reserved to say the least about HAT (even though he praises the L4 and now the L1 Pro SE). Jim has been installing for over 20 years now and has been around the block. His experience is something I draw off of every time I'm in the shop. Jim came up to me as I had a lull after the installation of my last LRx 2.9 and after he texture coated the driver's side A-pillar for my car. I was sitting on one of the shop chairs fiddle-farting around on this site...He told me about what had happened last week.

Jim and the customer (Steve), both their reactions were, "WOW!" They grabbed one of the L1 Pro SEs after comparing the K2 tweeter against the Morel Piccolo. Those two showed that the piccolo was much more smooth especially at the higher registers than the K2. Jim mentioned that the K2 was noticeably harsh...in "typical Focal style". Steve was about to pack his bags and declare the Morel Supremo Piccolo the king of the world when, I imagine, Jim wanted out of sheer curiosity to see if the L1 Pro SE had anything to it's reputation that I keep spouting off about.

To put the comparison succinctly, the L1 Pro SE made the oh so mighty Supremo Piccolo sound like the harsh K2 Focal tweeter to the same extent that the Morel had outshined the Focal. When Jim was describing this to me, his eyes were big. I seldom have seen Jim have reactions like that...especially over tweeters. In his reaction I could read the truth. The L1 Pro SE is arguably the best tweeter he'd ever heard. His descriptors were, "naturally warm, true to the sound, even, and not harsh in any way on the top end". He also mentioned that the L1 Pro SE tweeters were easily more able on the bottom end where the piccolo couldn't reach. We've both worked with top end brands, Focal's Audiom tweeters were a source of lusting for me years ago (no longer). He described the L1 Pro SE tweeters as so much more than the Morel, the raw ability in the frequency response, especially the lower end, was huge. I'm telling you Jim is not given to exaggeration or excitement. He had excitement when he talked about the L1 Pro SE.

I think this illustrates Jim's look when he heard how much better the L1 Pro SE tweeters were over the Morel Supremo tweeters:

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Next:

"I wanted to drop you note about the quality of Clarus 6.5 speaker system. Travis at Gig Harbor Auto Works in Gig Harbor, WA told about your product and let me listen to the set up in his company truck. It was impressive to say the least. Every vehicle I own or have every owned has upgraded audio systems to include my home. Sound quality is paramount with my family and friends of the company I work with. The shop specializes in performance, tuning, maintenance our client base are owners of Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Ferrari, and Lamborghini among other high end sports cars. Who expect quality and performance. The point of telling you this is I understand and appreciate quality/performance your product delivers exactly that! My Porsche which recently had the Clarus 6.5 speaker system installed is absolutely the best sound quality I have ever listened to in an automobile. This car is on display at our shop for our customers to check out and driven to allot of car shows, events and private showings at business events for performance based development.

My point is that I am extremely proud to show other people in our industry and our customer base how excellent your company’s products perform. I want to thank Travis from Gig Harbor Auto Works for the introduction to your speakers and trust in his judgment for which combination would sound best in my car. Thank you again for the great speakers! Amazing quality!"

[sqcomp]

Then there's this:

16:40 on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCcCUCbkYVs

It's a real world talk about the difference between a $900 Mille set and a $500 Clarus set.

And a DIYMA review of the Imagines:

"After two years of no stereo in the car, I decided to throw something together. Car is an 05 accord, with a loc going off of the factory deck and a powerbass 4.600 powering the speakers and a JL 12W0v2 sub in a ported box tuned to 28Hz. The car has about 40 square ft of damplifier pro in each door, holes sealed with two layers of aluminum flashing and dpro. Baffles are decoupled with clay, and sealed as well (see my old unofficial build log for details). Mids in the door, tweets in the factory location on the dash.

I started out with the cadence speakers, as the initial goal was cheap, simple, and just have some damn music in the car again.

Initial thoughts were they sounded decent, esp for the money. They had surprising midbass, stage height was nice as well. However the tweeters sucked. As a disclaimer, the first tweeter i ever heard that I was happy with out of the box was a DLS IR1. However, imaging was very weak, and they were very harsh, which is my biggest peeve. I tried to chalk up my dissatisfaction to being used to my dyns and hearing other competitor's cars with Morel, scan, etc, but still couldn't get used to ignoring the sound to the point I was immediately looking for some kind of eq I could add to fix the issues. So I decided to spring for the hybrids, due to price and simplicity of the crossover network, as well as reviews of people that I talked to.

I got the hybrids in a half hour ago, and was literally blown away. I believe the first thing i said was "these things are no joke". I expected much better than the cadence, simply from going from a $60 set of comps to a $200 set of comps from a sq oriented company, but wasnt expecting them to sound as good as I did. Even while installing them, I remembered thinking that they wouldn't sound 3x as good, even though the price Delta between the sets was more than that.

Midbass is much more clear and accurate, and while it seems to have less than the cadence, distortion also sounds louder, so I'm taking that into consideration. Regardless, there was enough for me to not think it was weak by any means. I bumped the bass to +1 on the factory deck and was fine.

Overall stage height was slightly lower, which I attribute to the mid playing up to 6k, where the tweeter kicks in. However, it didn't rainbow and was still several inches above the dash.

Midrange detail was much more accurate, to the point of me noticing and picking up info in the tracks that wasnt there earlier today with the cadence.

Tweeters are great. With no eq, there is already a much more focused image, a lot more detail, and no harshness or sibilance at all. I don't know how much these would be if sold as a separate set, but they're easily my new favorite cheap tweeter. I kept the cadence at -2 or -3 to kill the sibilance, and it was still there. These sit on 0 and are perfect.

I skipped through tracks on guns n roses' greatest hits, and was loving how good these sounded out of the box. Within a few minutes, I was literally grinning from ear to ear, and couldn't stop. My initial goal for this project was to have radio again, and while my wife commented that the cadence set were better than the monsoon system in her VW bug, these blow thouse out of the water. I listened to the others for prolly two weeks, and never even smiled at how they sounded. They were always just good for the money, and better than I was expecting. However, these hybrids really impressed me. It's been a while since i heard alpine's new spx line a couple years ago, but I don't remember anything standing out about them like these did.

Obviously, the hybrids were going to soud better, but it was a significant leap. I really wish i had saved the money and gotten them first, which I was initially considering.

All in all a great set of comps, and very much so worth the money. Scott did a really great job with this set.)

I have an RF 3sixty.2 en route, and almost wish I had gotten these in first, bc I may have not ordered it, but it'll be fun dialing these in some more.

I'll probably put a build log up for this, but I've been fabbing a dock for my Droid incredible, and have figured out how to stream Pandora and play mp3's from it through the usb out while allowing it to charge through the usb at the same time."

[patm]

D.

A+, nicely said and diplomatic. you could have majored in English or polital science.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Derick...

No worries mang. You can go to the Eastern Canadian championships in Toronto IIRC. If you decide you want to, let me know. I'll hook you up with Larry Woolcot and Louis Chouinard. They are both Team Hybrids members that can help you in your first competition.

In the mean time you and I can work on a build log that will put the judges at rest and give you full points...if you want.

Wow! that is almost 500 miles and 8-9 hours of driving... I don't think the kids and mom would let me go on that kind of journey

But we can work on a build log.... Ps what is that?

D.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by patm

D.

A+, nicely said and diplomatic. you could have majored in English or polital science.

Not even in Spanish my friend! Jeje

Thanks

D.