Why Industries - Toyota Yaris Forums

CompanyXPaladin · 08-11-2007, 08:39 PM

Has anyone used Why Industries for anything? I am looking specifically at the Yaris Turbo Kit they have available. Anything to report about these guys? Is this another ZPI in the making? It looks like a fairly complete kit for a pretty reasonable price. What do you guys think?
http://www.whyindustries.com/store/p...products_id=51

RShatchback · 08-11-2007, 09:08 PM

You should really call or email them if you interested in the kit and then post your findings here

I dont see anything on that list about engine management/tuning so I wonder what they are using - cause that usually seems to be the trickiest part on this car...

I'm still waiting for a reputable company, these private kits are fine and I'm glad someone is doing something - but look what happened with zpi, so I dont know...either way, check it out.

ChinoCharles · 08-11-2007, 09:09 PM

No management... tack at least $500 onto that price for an e-manage and some dyno time.

cali yaris · 08-12-2007, 12:29 AM

I thought our ECU compensated/disabled attempts with eManage?

joey1320 · 08-12-2007, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

I thought our ECU compensated/disabled attempts with eManage?

it does. the only way i know is to remove the front o2 sensor which will throw a cel but then the ecu won't be able to reset the adaptation values.

T&A said he used some kind of special unit for his turbo matrix but i'm not sure what it was called and if it will work on our cars. it supposedly allows you to boost the car without having to remove the front o2.

cali yaris · 08-12-2007, 12:32 AM

1. I don't like that they only give a P.O. Box.
2. I don't see any dynos or other verification of power gains.
3. I don't like internal wastegates.

With that said, it's worthy of further investigation. Who's making the call?

joey1320 · 08-12-2007, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

1. I don't like that they only give a P.O. Box.
2. I don't see any dynos or other verification of power gains.
3. I don't like internal wastegates.

With that said, it's worthy of further investigation. Who's making the call?

i feel the same way. i think for a "company" to come out and advertise for a specific turbo kit they should have some kind of dyno sheets/videos. is pretty simple to get a video of a dyno run and use it as a means to back up your claims nowadays...

why don't you like internal wastegates? they do a pretty good job on pretty much every oem turbo car...

thestereogod · 08-29-2007, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

3. I don't like internal wastegates.

A system that only makes this much power doesnt need an external.....

cali yaris · 08-12-2007, 12:01 PM

ok, about wastegates. I'd like to be able to change out the whole wastegate, or just the spring in the wastegate, etc. as needed. Sometimes these changes become desirable as you make other changes/upgrades to a turbo system. This has definitely been true on my tC project.

If I turbo my Yaris, I will be tinkering for a while, I'm willing to bet on that! I haven't seen a turbo kit yet that doesn't require further tuning/maintenance/monkeying to work properly.

redduck · 08-12-2007, 03:24 PM

looks a little too mom and pop for me

YarisGuy · 08-13-2007, 12:23 AM

You would think a company building turbo kits would be able to take better pictures of the kits installed and use better page setup. Look at the font

lifthard1 · 08-22-2007, 12:57 PM

that just looks shady to me.Like said above no management nor larger injectors.And from my past exp. with new toyo motors the design of the mani you will be blowing gaskets all day long.Just ask T&A He and I have delt with the toyo 2zz motors and the Turbo woes

cali yaris · 08-22-2007, 01:50 PM

Well... has anyone picked up a phone and called them? Easy to conjecture from here, but let's see what they have to say?

cali yaris · 08-27-2007, 10:52 PM

dude, you need to check out this thread.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8258

I talked to Todd myself, and not all of what you said is correct. He's very nice, and I think the product looks great, but read the other thread. 1. He never installed it in a Yaris and 2. he's selling it as is, not with injectors and management.

I have a turbo tC also, by the way.

reznunt · 08-28-2007, 01:29 AM

he's only got one post... i wouldn't trust it.

cali yaris · 08-28-2007, 09:58 AM

sciontc,

The main issue with the Yaris at this point is management. It does not have the same ECU as the Scion, so piggybacks like eManage don't work. Our ECU is "smart" and compensates for changes the piggyback tries to impose on it.

No one has an acceptable solution yet, including Todd, so we're waiting for someone to crack the ECU and/or come up with something less expensive than a standalone. After that, you'll see a LOT of turboed Yaris.

Like I said -- Todd seems to be a professional guy and his hardware looks great, but that is not a complete kit and it hasn't been installed in a Yaris yet.
(Todd did a motor swap on his Yaris instead, by the way.)

CompanyXPaladin · 08-28-2007, 03:58 PM

Has anyone thought about running a MegaSquirt or a MegaSquirt II in a turbo Yaris?

fu_im_from_texas · 08-28-2007, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CompanyXPaladin

Has anyone thought about running a MegaSquirt or a MegaSquirt II in a turbo Yaris?

yes, but i have no time, money, or expertise in engine managment ... so i figured my daily driver is a poor place to start...

08-11-2007, 08:39 PM	#1
CompanyXPaladin Drives: 08 Yaris 5-speed Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 212	Why Industries Has anyone used Why Industries for anything? I am looking specifically at the Yaris Turbo Kit they have available. Anything to report about these guys? Is this another ZPI in the making? It looks like a fairly complete kit for a pretty reasonable price. What do you guys think? http://www.whyindustries.com/store/p...products_id=51

08-11-2007, 09:08 PM	#2
RShatchback Drives: 07 yaris liftback Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 220	You should really call or email them if you interested in the kit and then post your findings here I dont see anything on that list about engine management/tuning so I wonder what they are using - cause that usually seems to be the trickiest part on this car... I'm still waiting for a reputable company, these private kits are fine and I'm glad someone is doing something - but look what happened with zpi, so I dont know...either way, check it out. __________________ Car forums are kinda like the public library - somepeople are just checking stuff out, and plenty of other people are just telling stories...

08-12-2007, 12:29 AM	#4
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,857	I thought our ECU compensated/disabled attempts with eManage? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-12-2007, 12:32 AM	#6
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,857	1. I don't like that they only give a P.O. Box. 2. I don't see any dynos or other verification of power gains. 3. I don't like internal wastegates. With that said, it's worthy of further investigation. Who's making the call? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-12-2007, 12:01 PM	#9
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,857	ok, about wastegates. I'd like to be able to change out the whole wastegate, or just the spring in the wastegate, etc. as needed. Sometimes these changes become desirable as you make other changes/upgrades to a turbo system. This has definitely been true on my tC project. If I turbo my Yaris, I will be tinkering for a while, I'm willing to bet on that! I haven't seen a turbo kit yet that doesn't require further tuning/maintenance/monkeying to work properly. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-11-2007, 09:09 PM	#3
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	No management... tack at least $500 onto that price for an e-manage and some dyno time.

08-12-2007, 03:24 PM	#10
redduck Drives: Yaris Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 136	looks a little too mom and pop for me

08-13-2007, 12:23 AM	#11
YarisGuy Drives: 2006 Yaris Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 203	You would think a company building turbo kits would be able to take better pictures of the kits installed and use better page setup. Look at the font __________________ It's a red yaris

08-22-2007, 12:57 PM	#12
lifthard1 Drives: Black LB Join Date: May 2007 Location: alabama Posts: 89	that just looks shady to me.Like said above no management nor larger injectors.And from my past exp. with new toyo motors the design of the mani you will be blowing gaskets all day long.Just ask T&A He and I have delt with the toyo 2zz motors and the Turbo woes

08-22-2007, 01:50 PM	#13
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,857	Well... has anyone picked up a phone and called them? Easy to conjecture from here, but let's see what they have to say? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-27-2007, 10:52 PM	#14
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,857	dude, you need to check out this thread. http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8258 I talked to Todd myself, and not all of what you said is correct. He's very nice, and I think the product looks great, but read the other thread. 1. He never installed it in a Yaris and 2. he's selling it as is, not with injectors and management. I have a turbo tC also, by the way. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-28-2007, 01:29 AM	#15
reznunt Hi! View User's Garage Drives: EF Sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Socal Posts: 434	he's only got one post... i wouldn't trust it.

08-28-2007, 09:58 AM	#16
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,857	sciontc, The main issue with the Yaris at this point is management. It does not have the same ECU as the Scion, so piggybacks like eManage don't work. Our ECU is "smart" and compensates for changes the piggyback tries to impose on it. No one has an acceptable solution yet, including Todd, so we're waiting for someone to crack the ECU and/or come up with something less expensive than a standalone. After that, you'll see a LOT of turboed Yaris. Like I said -- Todd seems to be a professional guy and his hardware looks great, but that is not a complete kit and it hasn't been installed in a Yaris yet. (Todd did a motor swap on his Yaris instead, by the way.) __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-28-2007, 03:58 PM	#17
CompanyXPaladin Drives: 08 Yaris 5-speed Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 212	Has anyone thought about running a MegaSquirt or a MegaSquirt II in a turbo Yaris?