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[Pavel Olavich]

It has been proven for years, all over the web, that small 4 banger car and motorcycle engines actually produce LESS POWER with higher octane gas. It is a myth to think that our Yaris engines benefit from higher octane gas, no such thing as "imrpoved MPG" either. Our Yaris engines are not even chipped for higher then 87, and are tuned to run optimally at 87. But try telling this to the boy-racers that equate dicking with their engines and changing the oil monthly with masterbation.

Burning gas higher then Octane 87 is just wasting money, and makes your engine produce LESS POWER...hello?!? Octane slows down the combustion of the gas....leave it for bigger higher compression engines that need that retardation, that are tuned by the factory for higher octane gas. Why would you force the combustion to happen too late in the cycle?!? Incomplete combustion means more stress on the motor, less longevity, and provides a false sense of being. Perhaps you know more then Toyota engineers?

Through my kids, I know many Ricer-Boy teenagers that always fill up their Civics, Integras, Corollas etc with Octane 89 or more...what a waste of money! They have this dillusion of "more power"! Dillusions and superstition are hard to overcome, sadly...

[Spades]

Originally Posted by Pavel Olavich

It has been proven for years, all over the web, that small 4 banger car and motorcycle engines actually produce LESS POWER with higher octane gas. It is a myth to think that our Yaris engines benefit from higher octane gas, no such thing as "imrpoved MPG" either. Our Yaris engines are not even chipped for higher then 87, and are tuned to run optimally at 87. But try telling this to the boy-racers that equate dicking with their engines and changing the oil monthly with masterbation.

Burning gas higher then Octane 87 is just wasting money, and makes your engine produce LESS POWER...hello?!? Octane slows down the combustion of the gas....leave it for bigger higher compression engines that need that retardation, that are tuned by the factory for higher octane gas. Why would you force the combustion to happen too late in the cycle?!? Incomplete combustion means more stress on the motor, less longevity, and provides a false sense of being. Perhaps you know more then Toyota engineers?

Through my kids, I know many Ricer-Boy teenagers that always fill up their Civics, Integras, Corollas etc with Octane 89 or more...what a waste of money! They have this dillusion of "more power"! Dillusions and superstition are hard to overcome, sadly...

I tried to explain why there is octane ratings, but, people don't want to listen. As Pavel said, causing the Fuel to burn later that it is supposed to is not such a good idea. When you get boosted, then go for octane, untill then, all it does is mess with a good design. Remember kiddies, just because the guy down the block puts high octane fuel in his stock 89 civic doesn't mean you should too.

P.S. Sport Compact Car had a whole issue devoted to urban myths about ricer "power" legends. High octane was one of them...and no, you do not get more HP out of higher octane fuel...and also, the octane boosters you buy at walmart actually cause more build up of crap in your fuel system, and most of them don't even boost the octane. Please...stop trying to make a stock compact gas miser car into something its not unless you f--k with the compression or add boost to the equation.

[Pavel Olavich]

Originally Posted by Spades

I tried to explain why there is octane ratings, but, people don't want to listen. As Pavel said, causing the Fuel to burn later that it is supposed to is not such a good idea. When you get boosted, then go for octane, untill then, all it does is mess with a good design. Remember kiddies, just because the guy down the block puts high octane fuel in his stock 89 civic doesn't mean you should too.

P.S. Sport Compact Car had a whole issue devoted to urban myths about ricer "power" legends. High octane was one of them...and no, you do not get more HP out of higher octane fuel...and also, the octane boosters you buy at walmart actually cause more build up of crap in your fuel system, and most of them don't even boost the octane. Please...stop trying to make a stock compact gas miser car into something its not unless you f--k with the compression or add boost to the equation.

So true Spades....and besides, we all know that if one really wants to add pazzazz to a cars performance, just add a thimble fill of diesel to the....