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Bluevitz-rs · 04-27-2010, 07:30 PM

Well, unless you can do precision machining and grinding, to remanufacture the output shaft with a different final drive gear on the end of it, there are no other options that I'm aware of.

All you can do is put on bigger 17 or 18" tires and put the speed sending unit from the Matrix XRS C60. That would get you close to the F/D you're looking for.

carlosh · 11-02-2010, 05:20 PM

Hi, I'm researching, the C60 transmission (toyota MR2 2003-2007, 6 speed) fit in my echo 2004.
Anyone have a feedback about that?

MR2 and echo sharing some platform or parts.

rob323 · 11-02-2010, 05:56 PM

The earlier MR2's (SW20) had the gear selector arms on the other side of the box. I don't know if they changed that in the newer MR2's but it would definately be worth investigating, otherwise you will have to swap that around.

Also check to see if the holes for the transmission mount are existing in the C60, if they aren't, but the thickened casting ribs are there,then at least you can drill and tap them to suit (which I had to do on my C56 box to make it work).

Bluevitz-rs · 11-03-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosh

Hi, I'm researching, the C60 transmission (toyota MR2 2003-2007, 6 speed) fit in my echo 2004.
Anyone have a feedback about that?

MR2 and echo sharing some platform or parts.

Yeah I'm pretty sure the shifting arms on the MR2 C60 are on the opposite side. Also, the reason I didn't use a C60 in my conversion is because the axles used are bigger than the Echo. So you'd need custom axles too. The C160 is the one to look for.

rob323 · 11-03-2010, 05:06 PM

Stock Echo axles fit in a C56 or C52 as well. But to save all the stuffing around I had to do to get the C56 to work, I would just get a C160 and mod the subframe to suit like Bluevitz did.

Bluevitz-rs · 04-13-2011, 06:12 PM

Wow, looking back, this was TOTALLY worth it. I love the ratios of the 6 speed driving around town. This was my number one on the the wish list of mods to my car, and I've had it for over a year now.

rob323 · 04-13-2011, 06:21 PM

They should have come from the factory like this!

Bluevitz-rs · 04-13-2011, 08:29 PM

They only thing I'd change as a factory transmission is a 4.2FD instead of the 4.5. 1st gear is nearly useless unless you're on a hill or want to take off like there's a MAC truck barreling up your A$$.

TEHxFALLEN V1.2 · 04-14-2011, 03:20 AM

Nice write up and build. Mad props.

cali yaris · 04-14-2011, 04:35 AM

Quote:

or want to take off like there's a MAC truck barreling up your A$$.

Oh... you mean the way I normally drive.

Bluevitz-rs · 04-14-2011, 09:14 AM

Garm, this should be on your to do list.

CrankyOldMan · 09-16-2011, 06:16 PM

Dredging up this old thing again, I'm curious about why the Toyota B Puller set is required. Is that something that could be rented from an auto parts store? $1500 for the actual thing is a bit steep for a DIY project.

cali yaris · 09-16-2011, 06:37 PM

^ good timing, I'm starting on this next week.

CrankyOldMan · 09-16-2011, 08:21 PM

I scored that used xB transmission from scioncrew. It's arriving Monday. Looks like at least one more trip to Harborfreight is in order.

Bluevitz-rs · 09-16-2011, 09:02 PM

I borrowed the puller set from my local dealer because I had the option to. The puller is specifically designed for disassembling the transmission. Only thing I needed to fab up was a trio of studs. I'll take a picture. You can use any pullers you'd like, just make sure they're not going to chip the teeth on the gears.

rob323 · 09-21-2011, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

I borrowed the puller set from my local dealer because I had the option to. The puller is specifically designed for disassembling the transmission. Only thing I needed to fab up was a trio of studs. I'll take a picture. You can use any pullers you'd like, just make sure they're not going to chip the teeth on the gears.

I chipped the teeth on one of the gears on my old box trying to remove it. There is bugger all room under the gear to get the legs of the puller in there.
A bit of creative grinding on a puller might let you get under there easier without damaging the teeth.

PS, zip ties don't work

CrankyOldMan · 10-11-2011, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob323

I chipped the teeth on one of the gears on my old box trying to remove it. There is bugger all room under the gear to get the legs of the puller in there.

So you used a standard bearing puller like this or a 3-jaw puller like this?

Bluevitz-rs · 09-16-2011, 10:22 PM

These are the studs I had to fab up. The ones I had weren't long enough so I had to weld a bolt onto each.

11-02-2010, 05:20 PM	#2
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04-27-2010, 07:30 PM	#1
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Well, unless you can do precision machining and grinding, to remanufacture the output shaft with a different final drive gear on the end of it, there are no other options that I'm aware of. All you can do is put on bigger 17 or 18" tires and put the speed sending unit from the Matrix XRS C60. That would get you close to the F/D you're looking for.

11-02-2010, 05:56 PM	#3
rob323 Don't drive it, RALLY it! Drives: 1999 echo PRC rally car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Joyner, Brisbane Posts: 321	The earlier MR2's (SW20) had the gear selector arms on the other side of the box. I don't know if they changed that in the newer MR2's but it would definately be worth investigating, otherwise you will have to swap that around. Also check to see if the holes for the transmission mount are existing in the C60, if they aren't, but the thickened casting ribs are there,then at least you can drill and tap them to suit (which I had to do on my C56 box to make it work).

11-03-2010, 05:06 PM	#5
rob323 Don't drive it, RALLY it! Drives: 1999 echo PRC rally car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Joyner, Brisbane Posts: 321	Stock Echo axles fit in a C56 or C52 as well. But to save all the stuffing around I had to do to get the C56 to work, I would just get a C160 and mod the subframe to suit like Bluevitz did.

04-13-2011, 06:12 PM	#6
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Wow, looking back, this was TOTALLY worth it. I love the ratios of the 6 speed driving around town. This was my number one on the the wish list of mods to my car, and I've had it for over a year now.

04-13-2011, 06:21 PM	#7
rob323 Don't drive it, RALLY it! Drives: 1999 echo PRC rally car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Joyner, Brisbane Posts: 321	They should have come from the factory like this!

04-13-2011, 08:29 PM	#8
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	They only thing I'd change as a factory transmission is a 4.2FD instead of the 4.5. 1st gear is nearly useless unless you're on a hill or want to take off like there's a MAC truck barreling up your A$$.

04-14-2011, 09:14 AM	#11
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Garm, this should be on your to do list.

09-16-2011, 06:16 PM	#12
CrankyOldMan 2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how! View User's Garage Drives: 09 Meteoric Metallic HB Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 2,333	Dredging up this old thing again, I'm curious about why the Toyota B Puller set is required. Is that something that could be rented from an auto parts store? $1500 for the actual thing is a bit steep for a DIY project.

09-16-2011, 08:21 PM	#14
CrankyOldMan 2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how! View User's Garage Drives: 09 Meteoric Metallic HB Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 2,333	I scored that used xB transmission from scioncrew. It's arriving Monday. Looks like at least one more trip to Harborfreight is in order.

09-16-2011, 09:02 PM	#15
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	I borrowed the puller set from my local dealer because I had the option to. The puller is specifically designed for disassembling the transmission. Only thing I needed to fab up was a trio of studs. I'll take a picture. You can use any pullers you'd like, just make sure they're not going to chip the teeth on the gears.