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Old 01-10-2012, 02:30 AM   #1
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It's ok. I e-mailed you at MI, Garm. I suppose you can disregard it. The orientation looks so like RHD projectors when looking at the cut off but I'll just have to open them up and play with them like Yaris2010RS had suggested.

I stated this in the email as well, but I'm not disputing the quality of the projectors. They seem well made and put light out like a muhfucker. It's the project of the conversion that sucks. I'll have to see why the cutoff looks so reversed when I'm absolutely certain the position of the projector marked 'top' is in there the way it should be. I'll check bulbs and all that though.

As far as silicone, I used the parts number that Brian suggested for the Nissan silicone. They quoted me $28.XX for it at Vaden Nissan. I'm sure Home Depot has something cheaper than that.

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Old 01-10-2012, 03:08 AM   #2
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I still want it to be right, though. I'll pull a kit and point the projectors at a wall tomorrow -- maybe we can resolve the RHD/LHD part first.

I've sold about ten of those kits and never heard of them having incorrect orientation for USDM cars. But you never know.

Ultimately, I would want them back and refund you if they don't work as expected. That should be the policy of any business and it's how I would want to be treated.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:15 AM   #3
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Your provider could have accidentally mixed in a RHD box with your shipment by mistake. Honest mistake I think.

*edit: this post is meant for Garm
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:20 AM   #4
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I have the G1 projectors, which provide lower light output than the G3's. Here is what they look like with the provided 6000k bulbs.

At start up and warming up








Cutoff (yes, I purposely aimed it so that it looks like stairs going up towards the right; I'm assuming yours looks like it would be to the left if you "stacked" the cutoffs?).





Comparing it to a stock 08 or 09 Mazda6 (stock HIDs)



The Mazda6's cutoff


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Old 01-10-2012, 03:21 AM   #5
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Ok. Please let me know what you find out. Either here or by e-mail.

This is the box, just in case. The orientation of the cut offs on the box is correct:






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Old 01-10-2012, 03:23 AM   #6
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If your cutoff looks like the picture on the box, then you have the correct, LHD cutoff.
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Kaotic:
Yeah, my 'stairs' go the other way. And I got flashed a ton from oncoming drivers on just a short drive down to the gas station and back. I then lowered the left a little and the right is raised nearly all the way up.

Even if I get the correct aim and all, I suppose part of it is that it just takes getting used to. I've never had a car with HIDs before and the division between light and darkness is much sharper than with traditional halogens where it kinda fades to darkness.

Edit: It doesn't. My cut off picture is a little further up the thread. Even Brian said that mine look like RHD cutoffs.

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Old 01-10-2012, 03:32 AM   #8
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Yeah, my 'stairs' go the other way. And I got flashed a ton from oncoming drivers on just a short drive down to the gas station and back. I then lowered the left a little and the right is raised nearly all the way up.

Even if I get the correct aim and all, I suppose part of it is that it just takes getting used to. I've never had a car with HIDs before and the division between light and darkness is much sharper than with traditional halogens where it kinda fades to darkness.

Edit: It doesn't. My cut off picture is a little further up the thread. Even Brian said that mine look like RHD cutoffs.

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And that division is due to the projectors (and the cutoffs inside them) and not HIDs themselves. It does take some time getting used to though. lol.
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Ah, I missed that post, but yes, those are definitely RHD cutoffs. You'll get flashed no matter what if you aim them to have usable light.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:42 AM   #10
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My projectors have the same cutoff....but it looks to me like they're sitting crooked in the headlights...the base gap of the halo ring should be pointing down...

The setup illuminates the right side of the road more at night.

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Old 01-10-2012, 10:47 PM   #11
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I looked into the flare problem earlier tonight here at work since I had an area with a building wall to see where light was being thrown and it appears that Yaris2010 was right. The reflectors bounce a portion of light to the outsides if they are left unpainted. I only have my cell camera on me but i tried capturing the reflection causing the flare.







Notice the speed limit sign ahead on the left illuminated, yet the stop sign closer and to the right remains fairly dark.
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Is there any way you can rotate the entire projector the 20 degrees or so required to manuall make it kick up on the right instead?
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It might be possible with work, but then the halo would be off. I'm not sure just rotating it would fix it alone. It's worth a try I suppose.
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I wouldn't personally mind the halo being off, having it at a slight angle would look pretty cool I think
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That's odd since the reflector bowl is designed for LHD cars so it should just throw the beam back towards the right????
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That's odd since the reflector bowl is designed for LHD cars so it should just throw the beam back towards the right????
No. The reflector bowl should have no effect on the light if using a projector. The projector should control all of the light output by itself. If the light coming out of the projector is hitting the reflector bowl then the projector may need to be moved out more to allow it to do its job.
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No. The reflector bowl should have no effect on the light if using a projector. The projector should control all of the light output by itself. If the light coming out of the projector is hitting the reflector bowl then the projector may need to be moved out more to allow it to do its job.
And since there's not really a way to do that with the base of the projector barely getting through the hole, the alternative that people do is paint the reflectors in order to cancel out the light being thrown all over the place.

I'm guessing it's really bad on the right projector because the kick up is to the left instead of to the right like it should be, while also reflecting off that side of the bowl and getting thrown back to the right. Hence my problem with the ground directly in front of the car to the right being lit.
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No. The reflector bowl should have no effect on the light if using a projector. The projector should control all of the light output by itself. If the light coming out of the projector is hitting the reflector bowl then the projector may need to be moved out more to allow it to do its job.
LOL, I know that. I was just saying that if the light from the projector was hitting the reflector bowl, shouldn't it throw the light back to the regular orientation as stock?
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