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[vwtech]

Originally Posted by frownonfun

i don't think anyone is talking about stop light traffic. it's when we are on the highway and someone is camped out in the left lane. there is no need. just move over. half the time i'm not even in a hurry but you'll have someone driving 65 in a 75mph zone in the left damn lane. yeah i'm gonna tailgate you. i'm gonna do it like it's going out of style and i'm gonna lay on my horn too. people can claim i'm being a jerk and being dangerous but you created the situation by not moving the hell over in the first place. not the least bit apologetic on this one.

I know what your talking about but what if they brake check you and you rearend them it's going to be your fault. I bet you the cop will laugh then write you a ticket when you tell them they were going too slow for you in the fast lane so you tailgated them and honked the horn but they hit the brakes and you hit them.

[JumpmanYaris]

I am wrong for this but it seems like everytime I tailgate a cruser on the left lane they get the hint and move over and I normaly thank them with me waving my hand to them

[JumpmanYaris]

Now bring on the

[yarrr]

Oh and by the way if you still like tailgating, I suggest buying a dash cam as I have a habit of slamming on my brakes and coming to a complete stop right as I'm passing a particularly slow person in the middle lane when someone is on my ass. I've only put 2 people in the dirt, but when one of you hits me, insurance almost always finds 100% fault for the person rear ending someone. It was a coyote running across the freeway I swear.

[sleey0]

Breaking the law, no.

Putting others/themselves in danger by not staying in the middle or right lane, yes.

[MadMax]

I am amused at how some claim that someone doing the speed limit in the left lane is causing a dangerous situation. The truth is that it is speeders who are the ones that are doing so. If a person is in such a rush that they can't slow down for a short while to maintain a safe distance between them a car in front of them until the latter has cleared the lane, then they are the ones that are causing the hazard!

So to all those who bitch and whine about being slowed down because of cars in the passing lane, take a second to consider that your aggressiveness and immature actions such as tailgating are the source of the true problem.

Oh, and it is illegal in many states to hit your brakes in response to a tailgater. But it is also illegal to follow so closely that you cannot safely stop in time for any reason...

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by kustom play

so what your saying is rather then move out of the way which is the smart thing do, you would rather cause a pile up on the highway because you feel the need to slam on your breaks at random. Lets just say that the person in back of you does hit you and dies. Have fun with the manslaughter conviction. You might not know this but 90% of the highway is covered with DOT cameras.

Also doing what you just said is a classic insurance scam called "Swoop and Squat".

The smart thing to do would be just move out of the way and let them pass. Its not hard. It sounds like your out to cause an accident because your to hard headed to move over

Nope, you hit me in the back, you shouldn't have been following so closely, end of story. Worst case it gets 50/50 if I hit the brakes for absolutely no reason and that can be proven by a camera. 90% of highways are visible from DOT cameras, I'd say about 10-20% have useable feed for a court case, if that. Good point though, I'll come up with a better lie like, oh wait I know, "its a toyota, the brakes just locked up and there was nothing I could do!" The 80 mph tire marks will be much harder to deal with for you then low resolution on ramp cameras will be for me. Also, a dash cam will not show what's in front of me if you are tailgating, all it will show is my bumper because your waaaaaaay too close. Please, please forward that to the police.

Swoop and squat involves moving into a lane and slamming on the brakes, where you don't have lane control. If I'm in the lane and have control you should have been far enough from me to not hit me if a meteor landed on me and stopped me in place.

Also, I cannot feel bad for someone dying that basically plays russian roulette every day tailgating people. If I didn't get them they could have killed someone else when they eventually killed themselves. I usually try to avoid ditches and such, but sometimes its hard to pass up those really golden opportunities where they try to speed up and cut the middle lane off to get around me, only to see my brake lights flying at them and instantly close the gap they were shooting for.

[why?]

Originally Posted by yarrr

Oh and by the way if you still like tailgating, I suggest buying a dash cam as I have a habit of slamming on my brakes and coming to a complete stop right as I'm passing a particularly slow person in the middle lane when someone is on my ass. I've only put 2 people in the dirt, but when one of you hits me, insurance almost always finds 100% fault for the person rear ending someone. It was a coyote running across the freeway I swear.

Originally Posted by yarrr

Nope, you hit me in the back, you shouldn't have been following so closely, end of story. Worst case it gets 50/50 if I hit the brakes for absolutely no reason and that can be proven by a camera. 90% of highways are visible from DOT cameras, I'd say about 10-20% have useable feed for a court case, if that. Good point though, I'll come up with a better lie like, oh wait I know, "its a toyota, the brakes just locked up and there was nothing I could do!" The 80 mph tire marks will be much harder to deal with for you then low resolution on ramp cameras will be for me. Also, a dash cam will not show what's in front of me if you are tailgating, all it will show is my bumper because your waaaaaaay too close. Please, please forward that to the police.

Swoop and squat involves moving into a lane and slamming on the brakes, where you don't have lane control. If I'm in the lane and have control you should have been far enough from me to not hit me if a meteor landed on me and stopped me in place.

Also, I cannot feel bad for someone dying that basically plays russian roulette every day tailgating people. If I didn't get them they could have killed someone else when they eventually killed themselves. I usually try to avoid ditches and such, but sometimes its hard to pass up those really golden opportunities where they try to speed up and cut the middle lane off to get around me, only to see my brake lights flying at them and instantly close the gap they were shooting for.

Please do the world a favor and kill yourself before you cause one of those 40 car pileups that kill a dozen people, because that is what they stupidity you are talking about will do. Really, with the crap you are saying you don't deserve to be alive.

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by PK198105

. If i have two car lengths in front of me and you play your game you are at fault ,

wrong wrong wrong. 2 car lengths on the freeway? Why am I even talking to you again?

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by PK198105

16 years of Need For Speed doesn't count as driving experience. Just because you didn't have an accident doesn't mean you know how to drive. And yes 2 car lengths behind you where you should have seen me and move out of the way not slow down like your retarded logic tells you to. And an unmarked police car can and will pull you over. I really wish you come for a visit to Montreal and pull your idiocy here, you will see how fast you will be part of a semi with Kenworth printed on your dumb forehead

ooo sick burn, eh? need for speed. YOU GOT ME! damnit!

I don't know about your backwards ass country, but here, unmarked cars can't pull you over, and 2 car lengths on the freeway gets you a tailgating ticket. The guy you were tailgating because he was blocking you in the passing lane, will look back, smile and wave.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by yarrr

I don't know about your backwards ass country, but here, unmarked cars can't pull you over,...

Huh?? Troopers in unmarked cars can and do pull over people all the time in the US. Maybe in your particular state they don't but no need to call out Canada like that.

A good 10-15% of our state cops up here are in plain gray Chargers.

[fmicle]

Originally Posted by yarrr

I don't know about your backwards ass country, but here, unmarked cars can't pull you over.

Maybe in NM... I've seen unmarked cars pulling people over in CA, so you should research your facts a bit...

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by PK198105

p.s just remember your post , because someone somewhere one day will use it against you in a court of law, and i won't be surprised if it happens soon

You mean for why? going on manslaughter charges like the 14 year old girl's mom on myspace?

Really stop though, I'm spitting up cheez-its at the thought of someone rear ending me, and then running home and searching for a yaris forum on the off chance I incriminated myelf(or incriminated a proxy, either way)

[frownonfun]

i'm not concerned with people brake checking. i'm not concerned with insurance or cops or tickets. sorry. i'm unreasonably stubborn on this issue. just move over. it's that simple. i mentioned previously that the correct way to handle tailgaters and speeders is to move out of the way so as not to increase the danger of the situation. and call in aggressive driving to the highway patrol if you see fit. i also mentioned previously that i have no consideration for safety if you don't have the courtesy to just move your arms ever so slightly to the right and get back in the correct lane.

now if we are talking about several cars passing several other cars and i'm at the tail end of that line. no i'm not gonna tail the person in front of me. i'm gonna kick back and wait cause i know it's not their fault that the person all the way at the front of the group is holding everyone up.

[frownonfun]

Originally Posted by frownonfun

the correct way to handle tailgaters and speeders is to move out of the way so as not to increase the danger of the situation.

this is how i handle it. i'm not usually gunning to be the fastest man alive or anything. so i encounter people trying to go way too fast also. i move out of their way and carry on with my life.

[sleey0]

When will u ppl realize that folks are gonna speed regardless?

So just deal with it and move over:)

[sickpuppy1]

I'm not gonna take sides either way, yes I have an opinion, but its mine. I go back to being considerate. And I guess the golden rule. Since I'm over 50 and seen alot of crap go down in my life, my attitude has changed over time. Cause I used to be a speeder, and even one of the people who didnt get out of the way in any big hurry . But I refuse to let other drivers affect my attitude. I stay in the middle or right lane unless I want to pass. Let the speeder do his/her thing. If I'm in the left lane passing someone and I see the speeder coming up behind me, no days I get over as soon as I safely can and let them by. Then I can go around the slower ones later. I didnt used to be like this, but the frustration to you and that you create isnt worth it. If you knew how many people are KILLED by some other idiots road rage it would surprise you.
Insisting on your "right" to hang in the left lane is your decision, but it makes you almost as much of an A-hole as that jerk behind you,IMO. I heard of a case where a tractor trailer driver was actually pushing cars off the road that did that. Hopefully it doesnt catch up with you and you get hurt or killed, but you know as well as me that people are crazier than they used to be. They shoot at people now days as they go by. Its just a weirder world we live in and I feel no need to add to it. Do you really feel better when you lock somebody in like that? Maybe some kind of revenge? Probably trying to get rid some frustrations. But it wont get rid of it that way. And to put someone in the ditch?! Wow, you get a kick out of that?! That actually sound like you have some real anger issue that need help, seriously, it does! I'm not a pacifist, not by any stretch of the imagination, but I pick my battles over something that really frickin matters! Not over lane choice and not with a car, thats a chickenshit cowards way out. Grow up, or at least make an effort.

[frownonfun]

Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

I'm not gonna take sides either way, yes I have an opinion, but its mine. I go back to being considerate. And I guess the golden rule. Since I'm over 50 and seen alot of crap go down in my life, my attitude has changed over time. Cause I used to be a speeder, and even one of the people who didnt get out of the way. But I refuse to let other drivers affect my attitude. I stay in the middle or right lane unless I want to pass. Let the speeder do his/thing. If I'm in the left lane passing someone and I see the speeder coming up behind me, no days I get over as soon as I safely can and let them by. Then I can go around the slower ones later. I didnt used to be like this, but the frustration to you and that you create isnt worth it. If you knew how many people are KILLED by some other idiots road rage it would surprise you.
Insisting on your "right" to hang in the left lane is your decision, but it makes you almost as much of an A-hole as that jerk behind you,IMO. I heard of a case where a tractor trailer driver was actually pushing cars off the road that did that. Hopefully it doesnt catch up with you and you get hurt or killed, but you know as well as me that people are crazier than they used to be. They shoot at people now days as they go by. Its just a weirder world we live in and I feel no need to add to it. Do you really feel better when you lock somebody in like that? Maybe some kind of revenge? Probably trying to get rid some frustrations. But it wont get rid of it that way. And to put someone in the ditch?! Wow, you get a kick out of that?! That actually sound like you have some real anger issue that need help, seriously, it does! I'm not a pacifist, not by any stretch of the imagination, but I pick my battles over something that really frickin matters! Not over lane choice and not with a car, thats a chickenshit cowards way out. Grow up, or at least make an effort.

now that's a voice of reason right there. honestly that should end the thread.