DIY: CHANGE MANUAL TRANNY OIL - Page 8 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Hershey · 06-09-2013, 02:16 PM

Well done

. On occasion during an oil change I drop the drain bolt in the oil bucket and have to fish around for it

. Keep us informed on any improvements with the new fill . Well worth the mess .

wilbrod · 06-09-2013, 11:41 PM

I was a bit doubtful that I would see any difference as the shift stick was moving around really well with the old oil. Well now I can hardly believe it but it is actually slicker. I would think that the biggest difference will be in winter driving.

Oh and I didn't have a 24mm socket or a 1/2" ratchet(as most 24mm sockets seemed to be 1/2" inserts). Found many at the pawn shop. Got the ratchet AND the socket for $4 all in!

Hershey · 06-09-2013, 11:57 PM

Can't go wrong at that price . Lady luck must be on your side .

7:34pm · 07-04-2013, 10:19 PM

Sorry but my Yaris is base model and didn't come with an owner's manual.

What type of fluid is recommended for the 5spd manual? Is it 75w90?

thanks

bronsin · 07-05-2013, 06:56 AM

Wilbro how did your engine compartment get so dirty?

I hope you changed the AF too!

wilbrod · 07-13-2015, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronsin

Wilbro how did your engine compartment get so dirty?

I hope you changed the AF too!

I do a fair amount of driving on dirt roads when I go climbing.. I change both air filters regularly as they get dirty quickly!

Nigel8600 · 10-25-2013, 02:37 AM

I was having the same problem shifting into first (at a very slow speed, maybe 2MPH?) so I found this thread and changed my gear oil to MT90 2 days ago. I cant believe how smooth it shifts now, its like butter........ BUT............. it still grinds when going into first... even when going into 2nd gear just before. Agghhhh

Hershey · 10-26-2013, 12:27 PM

Let us know if the grinding disappears over a period of time .

En4sir · 04-18-2014, 07:09 PM

After purchasing my 2009 3-door hatchback new and putting 165,000 miles on it I decided today (after reading this thread) to change my manual transmission fluid. I followed the advice offered by many here and would like to add a few little tips that I did that should benefit others.

I took some 2-foot long 2" x 8"'s scrap I had laying around and placed a section of 2" x 8" in front of each tire. I then drove the car onto the lumber to increase the ground clearance by another 1.5 inches. It may not sound like much but every bit helps especially when gaining access to the drain plug underneath the car without having to use a jack.

I loosened-up the filler plug just enough to make sure that it could be removed, then removed the drain plug. Draining the transmission fluid without removing the filler plug prevented the transmission fluid from gushing out. After draining about a quart of fluid I then removed the filler plug to allow the transmission to drain completely. No messy spillage anywhere.

I attached a clear vinyl hose 5/8"od / 1/2" id to a small funnel. The hose fit perfectly in the filler hole of the transmission - nice and snug.

Unfortunately I could not find Redline MT90 anywhere locally, so I decided to use Amsoil Severe Gear SAE 75W-90. I referenced the Amsoil website to make sure it could be used in my Yaris.

I test drove the car afterwards and there is a noticable difference in how the transmission shifts - nice and smooth.

Thanks to all the valuable advice posted here in this thread, a job that my local Toyota dealer wanted a $198.95 to do, I did for $25.00 and it took a total of 25 minutes to do.

frambach · 04-20-2014, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by En4sir

I decided to use Amsoil Severe Gear SAE 75W-90. I referenced the Amsoil website to make sure it could be used in my Yaris.

I test drove the car afterwards and there is a noticable difference in how the transmission shifts - nice and smooth.

Thanks to all the valuable advice posted here in this thread, a job that my local Toyota dealer wanted a $198.95 to do, I did for $25.00 and it took a total of 25 minutes to do.

I used Severe Gear as well. I have put 30,000 miles on the lubricant and have been well pleased.

AMSOIL lists Severe Gear as a GL-5 product. Can anyone find (in writing) where Toyota says the Yaris C50 has to have a GL-4? Just curious, I'd like to see it.

When a transmission MUST have a GL-4, AMSOIL makes sure they recommend a GL-4. On the Yaris, the first recommendation is a GL-5.

rningonfumes · 04-20-2014, 08:09 AM

I don't think you'll find anything in writing from the manufacturer that GL-4 is for the Yaris. It's just a general consensus that GL-4 is reviewed by members to feel better for their Yaris. If you search any of the terms ie GL-4 and you'll find that it works better for our synchros among other things.

Here is one particular thread: http://yarisworld.com/forums/showthr...highlight=gl-4

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

You probably should have used AMSOIL 75W-90 GL-4 Transaxle Lube...it's what I used and GL-4 is better for the transaxle than the severe gear GL-5, which is meant for differentials.

Nice and succint from this thread:
http://yarisworld.com/forums/showthr...ht=gl-4&page=2

Hershey · 04-20-2014, 01:56 PM

GL-4 is preferred . The AMSOIL Manual Transmission and Transaxles Gear Lube is GL-4 . If it's not giving poor shifting ( grinding , etc. ) you should be fine .

sheekeebut · 06-28-2014, 10:13 AM

Drove my lowered sedan onto 1" thick concrete tiles at the front. Just enough space to floor jack the front up and start working. Thanks OP, you've saved me $200+ in quoted service fees, plus given me some knowledge every Yaris enthusiast should have.

For the record: Motomaster synthetic 75W90, GL-5.

If our manual says says GL-4 OR GL-5, then I shouldn't worry so much about using GL-5. The Toyota engineers would be in deep trouble if they designed a gearbox without considering that they prescribed an oil grade that can harm yellow metals.

spookybathtub · 08-31-2014, 01:02 PM

I looked around yesterday, and I think I found it where Cory labeled in that drawing. After removing the air box, it's visible from the top. It's an aluminum cap about 1/2" diameter and 3/4" tall. It spins freely, and I pulled it off with vise grips. It looked totally clean under the cap, but I blew it off with canned air anyway.

Exiwolfman · 09-08-2014, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spookybathtub

I looked around yesterday, and I think I found it where Cory labeled in that drawing. After removing the air box, it's visible from the top. It's an aluminum cap about 1/2" diameter and 3/4" tall. It spins freely, and I pulled it off with vise grips. It looked totally clean under the cap, but I blew it off with canned air anyway.

And now ur gone have to replace it with new ...they are not to be removed ,caps that is ...if stuck spray penetrating fluid free it up clean off with brake clean .
They are also used on the axles on Tacoma and tundra almost all Toyota's .

sent from my S4 on Mars

spookybathtub · 09-08-2014, 10:00 PM

Mine went back on just fine... what's the problem?

Exiwolfman · 09-08-2014, 10:09 PM

No problem... Just saying no need to take it apart and risk damage yours may or maybe not ok that's all

sent from my S4 on Mars

donpalino · 09-16-2014, 09:58 PM

Found this pdf about multiples oils. Keep in mind is sponsored by AMSOIL. Also ignore the rating at the end. Kind of crappy weighting system.

http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/br...lube_study.pdf

07-05-2013, 06:56 AM	#5
bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,792	Wilbro how did your engine compartment get so dirty? I hope you changed the AF too! __________________ Synthetic Oil: Its All In Your Head

10-25-2013, 02:37 AM	#7
Nigel8600 Drives: 2008 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Calgary AB Posts: 22	I was having the same problem shifting into first (at a very slow speed, maybe 2MPH?) so I found this thread and changed my gear oil to MT90 2 days ago. I cant believe how smooth it shifts now, its like butter........ BUT............. it still grinds when going into first... even when going into 2nd gear just before. Agghhhh __________________

04-18-2014, 07:09 PM	#9
En4sir Drives: '09 Yaris 3dr HB 5sp Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NE Pennsylvania Posts: 17	After purchasing my 2009 3-door hatchback new and putting 165,000 miles on it I decided today (after reading this thread) to change my manual transmission fluid. I followed the advice offered by many here and would like to add a few little tips that I did that should benefit others. I took some 2-foot long 2" x 8"'s scrap I had laying around and placed a section of 2" x 8" in front of each tire. I then drove the car onto the lumber to increase the ground clearance by another 1.5 inches. It may not sound like much but every bit helps especially when gaining access to the drain plug underneath the car without having to use a jack. I loosened-up the filler plug just enough to make sure that it could be removed, then removed the drain plug. Draining the transmission fluid without removing the filler plug prevented the transmission fluid from gushing out. After draining about a quart of fluid I then removed the filler plug to allow the transmission to drain completely. No messy spillage anywhere. I attached a clear vinyl hose 5/8"od / 1/2" id to a small funnel. The hose fit perfectly in the filler hole of the transmission - nice and snug. Unfortunately I could not find Redline MT90 anywhere locally, so I decided to use Amsoil Severe Gear SAE 75W-90. I referenced the Amsoil website to make sure it could be used in my Yaris. I test drove the car afterwards and there is a noticable difference in how the transmission shifts - nice and smooth. Thanks to all the valuable advice posted here in this thread, a job that my local Toyota dealer wanted a $198.95 to do, I did for $25.00 and it took a total of 25 minutes to do. __________________ "Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

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06-09-2013, 02:16 PM	#1
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Well done . On occasion during an oil change I drop the drain bolt in the oil bucket and have to fish around for it . Keep us informed on any improvements with the new fill . Well worth the mess .

06-09-2013, 11:41 PM	#2
wilbrod Drives: Yaris 2008 Hatchback Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 7	I was a bit doubtful that I would see any difference as the shift stick was moving around really well with the old oil. Well now I can hardly believe it but it is actually slicker. I would think that the biggest difference will be in winter driving. Oh and I didn't have a 24mm socket or a 1/2" ratchet(as most 24mm sockets seemed to be 1/2" inserts). Found many at the pawn shop. Got the ratchet AND the socket for $4 all in!

06-09-2013, 11:57 PM	#3
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Can't go wrong at that price . Lady luck must be on your side .

07-04-2013, 10:19 PM	#4
7:34pm Drives: 07 Yaris Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: British Columbia Posts: 132	Sorry but my Yaris is base model and didn't come with an owner's manual. What type of fluid is recommended for the 5spd manual? Is it 75w90? thanks

10-26-2013, 12:27 PM	#8
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Let us know if the grinding disappears over a period of time .

04-20-2014, 01:56 PM	#12
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	GL-4 is preferred . The AMSOIL Manual Transmission and Transaxles Gear Lube is GL-4 . If it's not giving poor shifting ( grinding , etc. ) you should be fine .

06-28-2014, 10:13 AM	#13
sheekeebut Minimalist Drives: 07 silver sedan Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississauga, GTA, Toronto, ON Posts: 432	Drove my lowered sedan onto 1" thick concrete tiles at the front. Just enough space to floor jack the front up and start working. Thanks OP, you've saved me $200+ in quoted service fees, plus given me some knowledge every Yaris enthusiast should have. For the record: Motomaster synthetic 75W90, GL-5. If our manual says says GL-4 OR GL-5, then I shouldn't worry so much about using GL-5. The Toyota engineers would be in deep trouble if they designed a gearbox without considering that they prescribed an oil grade that can harm yellow metals.

08-31-2014, 01:02 PM	#14
spookybathtub View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris HB Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 105	I looked around yesterday, and I think I found it where Cory labeled in that drawing. After removing the air box, it's visible from the top. It's an aluminum cap about 1/2" diameter and 3/4" tall. It spins freely, and I pulled it off with vise grips. It looked totally clean under the cap, but I blew it off with canned air anyway.

09-08-2014, 10:00 PM	#16
spookybathtub View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris HB Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 105	Mine went back on just fine... what's the problem?

09-08-2014, 10:09 PM	#17
Exiwolfman View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wasaga beach Posts: 1,617	No problem... Just saying no need to take it apart and risk damage yours may or maybe not ok that's all sent from my S4 on Mars

09-16-2014, 09:58 PM	#18
donpalino Drives: Yaris 2010 5Dr MT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Newton, MA Posts: 12	Found this pdf about multiples oils. Keep in mind is sponsored by AMSOIL. Also ignore the rating at the end. Kind of crappy weighting system. http://www.syntheticwarehouse.com/br...lube_study.pdf